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09-19-2004, 01:15 PM

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Re: Soul Prostitution (Re: طلال عفيفي)

    Sometimes you just wonder ... "who has a definition of what the norm is?" ... who is perfect enough to set the majors that we are suppose to follow or even suppose to be ... each and every one of us is a part of our country's culture ... and just like Iman said some people think they have the exclusive right to define this culture ... so let ME break the news to you people ... you are just a part of this community just like I am and this culture is mine as much as it is yours...
    Looking back at our history ... you can rarely find two different opinions showed on the surface , the opposite opinion always had to be hidden underground , and that image of the opposition as the weak side had always proved one thing (if you want people to listen ... force them), it starts with a kid who isn't allowed to talk at home and a student who gets punished for questioning the books information, and ended with wars, wars were each side of it is so ignorant about the other, wars that the people got pushed into it not for a cause but "just like that" .... this is how every thing in our part of the world happens ..."just like that"... and why? Because no one dared to ask (why)

    I know this country went through a lot of disappointments, regime after another, corruption after anther, tragedy after another , lost after anther , you name it you find it, and this can pretty much be a reason for the carelessness that every body is feeling now, and it could be the reason why we just feel it's better to give up, there are so many reasons, but they are reasons that can push us both ways, to success or to failure, many countries walked out of crises, why should we be the country that never makes it, I don’t want to be idealistic, and I also don’t want to sound like a pessimistic when I say that it's a very tuff walk to make, but it is a fact that this society haven't changed much in more than half a century , in the article Adel quoted there was a paragraph that interested me very much, it says:
    {Al-Tijani's neighbours were Jaialiyin, and considered themselves Arabs, unlike their Nubian neighbours. They even claimed descent from Al-Abbas, the Prophet Mohamed's paternal uncle.}
    this kind of culture is still very popular, maybe it's no longer spoken loudly about, but it's always in every bodies mind , and that for me is a bigger problem, because a person who stands for what he think is a person you can talk to a person you can discus things with, but when such racist unwritten rules are kept in side people's mind, this'll mean one thing, never to discuss it, never to confess it, never change it, always follow it. Which takes us back to the beginning (we are afraid of being different), and that goes on no matter if different is right or wrong, all I can come out with is(we have to talk things out) no matter how delicate and untellable it seems, we have to start talking it.

    Adel you have absolutely enriched the post, there is so much going in my mind that I'd like to talk about _and I think that is obvious from the missy writing I've done_ but there are some things that I'd like to take my time thinking about.

    Iman, thanks for bringing the brides of the Nile issue I always wanted to say a couple of words about this issue.

    Khalid altyeb, big thanx.


    طلال عفيفي
    النقطة ليست التحرر من كل الروابط بقدر ماهي المقدرة على اختيار الروابط التي تربطك بمحيطك الخارجي ... انا شخصيا لم اؤمن يوما بالتحرر الكامل لانه شكل حياة فردي بعيد كل البعد عن التكوين الاجتماعي الذي اعشق تنوعه ... لذا ربما نختلف قليلا هنا...
    طلال... نعم عمل ابي في التدريس ... و نعم سكنا امدرمان يوما و مازالت تسكنني حتى الان



    Every body:
    I hope you can take it easy on me this time , because I know what I wrote is very missy, but it's almost every thing I wanted to say plus (lots of grammar mistakes and confused sentences) for free.
                  

العنوان الكاتب Date
Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-06-04, 01:57 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Muhib09-06-04, 04:49 PM
    Re: Soul Prostitution Muhib09-06-04, 05:11 PM
      Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-07-04, 04:31 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-07-04, 04:27 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution أحمد الشايقي09-07-04, 04:40 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-07-04, 04:56 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Dia eldin khalil09-07-04, 06:41 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-07-04, 07:44 AM
      Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Isaac09-07-04, 10:58 AM
        Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-08-04, 05:38 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Elnasri Amin09-07-04, 11:17 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution Muhib09-07-04, 01:16 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-07-04, 01:04 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution أحمد الشايقي09-07-04, 01:59 PM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-08-04, 05:41 AM
      Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-08-04, 05:43 AM
        Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-08-04, 05:47 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution مراويد09-08-04, 08:22 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution إيمان أحمد09-08-04, 08:24 PM
      Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-10-04, 12:49 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution أحمد الشايقي09-10-04, 11:39 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-11-04, 08:32 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-11-04, 11:41 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-13-04, 11:58 AM
      Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-13-04, 12:05 PM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-14-04, 05:51 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-14-04, 06:27 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution إيمان أحمد09-14-04, 08:20 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Khalid Eltayeb09-15-04, 05:24 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-16-04, 10:33 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-16-04, 12:43 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-17-04, 10:02 AM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-18-04, 08:51 AM
    Re: Soul Prostitution إيمان أحمد09-18-04, 09:16 AM
      Re: Soul Prostitution طلال عفيفي09-19-04, 09:18 AM
        Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-19-04, 01:15 PM
          Re: Soul Prostitution طلال عفيفي09-20-04, 09:43 AM
            Re: Soul Prostitution أحمد أمين09-20-04, 01:10 PM
              Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-21-04, 12:10 PM
            Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-20-04, 01:36 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-20-04, 03:17 PM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-21-04, 12:15 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-21-04, 02:01 PM
    Re: Soul Prostitution مزن ابوعبيدة النيل09-22-04, 12:59 PM
  Re: Soul Prostitution Adil Osman09-23-04, 08:37 AM


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