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 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم (Re: تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل)
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بعد اذن تبارك اود ان ارد علي ناس الفيسبوك .. انا افتكر اني رديت في بوست صلب يسوع ..ملاحقتي هنا اعطت انطباع بان لا رد لي او محاول للهروب من السؤال ..ما علينا ..
بعد التحيه ..انا عايز ارد علي الاخ جورج من هنا ..
انا قلت من قبل ان في بعض الكتابات الهنديه (الخرافه الهندوسيه) في قصص مشابه لحادثه صلب وقيامه وايضا كفاره للخطايا عن طريق شخصيه مميزه . ولكن الفرق ان يسوع شخص حقيقي وهذه الاشياء (الصلب والقيامه) حوادث تاريخيه حقيقيه ولدينا ادله عليها ..
وبالمناسبه يا جورج انا لم اتلقي ايميل منك .. والشي المكتوب في بوستي الاخر انا متطلع عليه من قبل ..في المسيحيه (الشيطان) دوما في حاله تقديم صوره مقاربه (للحقيقه) ولهذا انا لا اصدق القصص الهندوسيه
لان الشيطان في حديقه عدن (كذب) وقدم لحواء صوره مخالفه وان كانت قريبه او شبه مطابقه للحقيقه . هنالك امثله كثيره ..كل اديان الدنيا تحاول ان تقدم صوره مقاربه من الاصل والهدف واضح وهو ابعاد الانسان من الحقيقه (الحقيقيه) .
وفي الاخر يا جورج ..انا عايزك تقراء اللنك وفيه رد علي كلامك بصوره اعمق ..
لغه انجليزيه ..
http://www.about-jesus.org/paganism.htm
Some scholars and writers have claimed that there are striking parallels between Krishna, of the Hindu religion, and Christ, including
• The sound and meaning of their names.
• Being born on Dec. 25.
• Being born in a manger.
• Being born of a virgin.
• Having a carpenter for a father.
• Being targeted by an act of infanticide.
• Being killed by crucifixion.
• Being resurrected.
Many of these claims were popularized by Kersey Graves, a 19th century writer, and others who rely on his work as a basis to claim that Christianity borrowed from paganism and other traditions. Graves' work continues to be influential, especially with Web sites that attack Christianity.
Although the words Krishna and Christ might sound phonetically similar, they have different meanings. "Krishna" means "the black one," or "dark one," whereas the "Christ" means "anointed one" or "messiah."
As for the Dec. 25 "similarity," the New Testament says nothing of that date in regards to the birth, life or death of Jesus Christ. Many Christians commemorate the birth of Jesus on Dec. 25, but the date is a matter of tradition, not theology. Hindus celebrate the birth of Krishna in August.
The Mahabharata, a Hindu religious text with details about the life and teachings of Krishna, says that Krishna was born in a prison, not a manger, and that his father was a nobleman, not a carpenter.
As for a virgin birth, the Mahabharata says that Krishna's parents were Princess Devaki and Vasudeva, (Mahabharata Book 12, Section 48), who had several children before he was born.
As for the claim of infanticide, there is an account of this in the Mahabharata, which says that Devaki and Vasudeva were imprisoned by her cousin, Kamsa, because he was told that one of her sons would kill him. Kamsa killed the first six children born of Devaki.
The infanticide described in the New Testament involved a massacre that targeted the young children in the town of Bethlehem, because King Herod feared that the Christ-child, who was to be born in Bethlehem, would rise up and assume the throne. Herod, an Idumean, had been appointed as "king" by the Romans to rule over the land of the Jews. By trying to kill Jesus, Herod was hoping to secure his illegitimate claim to the throne.
While it is true that the Mahabharata and the New Testament both contain an account of infanticide, it should be noted that Herod's act has more in common with events described in the Old Testament than with the Mahabharata. During turbulent times in ancient Israel, usurpers would attempt to kill the children of a king, in the hopes of illegitimately seizing the throne.
As for the crucifixion and resurrection, it is true that the Mahabharata says that Krishna, who is alternately referred to as Keshava, is killed and that he returns to life, but he was not crucified. Instead, he receives a mortal injury to the heel while meditating in the forest:
"A fierce hunter of the name of Jara then came there, desirous of deer. The hunter, mistaking Keshava, who was stretched on the earth in high Yoga, for a deer, pierced him at the heel with a shaft and quickly came to that spot for capturing his prey." - Mahabharata, Book 16, Section 4.
There are other texts associated with Hinduism that contain other accounts of Krishna, but these texts are believed by many scholars to have been composed from 400 AD to 1000 AD, which makes it difficult, if not impossible, to prove that the first-century New Testament could have been influenced by them.
Even with the Mahabharata, a person faces a difficult task in trying to claim that it could have been an influence on the New Testament. Even though the writing of the Mahabharata is believed to have been started during pre-Christian times, many scholars claim that it wasn't completed until at least a few centuries after the time of Jesus. One example is Edward Washburn Hopkins, an American Sanskrit scholar who lived during the 19th century, who claimed in his book, "The Religions of India," that most of the scholars known to him would agree that the Mahabharata was completed by the sixth or seventh century, after the time of Jesus.
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 ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-18-13, 06:28 PM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-18-13, 06:50 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | محمد قرشي عباس | 03-18-13, 10:26 PM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-19-13, 02:46 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-19-13, 03:27 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | عزالدين عباس الفحل | 03-19-13, 07:29 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | سليمان القرشي | 03-19-13, 07:55 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-19-13, 03:37 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-19-13, 05:38 PM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-19-13, 08:19 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-20-13, 00:32 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-20-13, 09:16 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-20-13, 10:24 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | خضر الطيب | 03-21-13, 00:33 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | عمر نملة | 03-21-13, 01:03 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-21-13, 03:14 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-21-13, 05:46 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-21-13, 08:02 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-22-13, 02:35 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-22-13, 02:39 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-22-13, 03:54 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Zakaria Joseph | 03-22-13, 07:43 PM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-22-13, 08:47 PM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-29-13, 04:30 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-29-13, 05:19 AM |
| Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-29-13, 05:22 AM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | Muhib | 03-30-13, 02:22 PM |
 Re: ونسه مع تبارك ..لو سمح وتكرم | تبارك شيخ الدين جبريل | 03-30-13, 03:00 PM |
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