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 Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur (Re: Mohamed Omer)
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Some of the comments from the independent's website
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Sports are not immune to politics. The Olympics have been boycotted in the past because of political concerns (the 1956, and 1980 summer Olympics are good examples).
It can be argued that supporting the Olympics this year is giving tactic support to China's human rights abuses. The recent arrest of human rights activists (such as Hu Jia) should be
protested strongly. Attending and supporting the Olympics gives implicit support to such actions
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After so many years of inaction and indifference by the West, we suddenly want to blame Darfur on China? There are many countries to blame, starting with US support of the SPLA and John Garang 10 years ago
http://www.google.com/search?q=Darfur+CIA+early+involvement
At any rate the original Darfur mess has since been replaced with inter-tribal conflict and herdsmen fighting for territory. Neither Khartoum nor Beijing has much influence over that.
China is simply a scapegoat
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I think he did the right thing, someone with backbone, this post can't be accessed in china, unless you know how so most chinese won't see it, but then most chinese don't see anything they don't want to see, living a dreamworld of mandopop and saving face, read bull####, this is a nationalististic state, but inhabited by cowards who will lie to your face to save theirs, grow up china, and get a backbone
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Criticising China for inaction over Darfur, just like the earlier criticism over Burma, borders on the bizarre. Why, given China's appalling treatment of its own people, would it intervene on behalf of others?
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This is not about sports. The Olympics are about money, politics and prestige. I personally am sickened by the corporate sponsored propaganda that this and earlier Olympics have tried to shove down our throats. Even the athletes are corrupted by drugs and money. The idea that the Chinese communists can get away with murder and achieve a propaganda triumph is unacceptable. I will be boycotting the coverage and the sponsors
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Given that the government attacked an African Union column, given that the janjaweed have been organized by the government, and given the promotion of the person in charge of that effeort the Gvoernment of Sudan clearly has a role and has played it. To dismiss it all as "tribalism" suggests the usual rationalization for western/first world governments to do nothing "that's just the way they are."
Why focus on China? Because it has blocked UN resolutions to do more. Because it has a signifcant trade with Sudan. Because China always talked loudly about "self determination" and "people's struggles" and tut tutted about opressors--well, time the world --especially the third world, where it is now ever more present--saw it for what it is. It is now Stanlinist entrepreneurship, but it has no more respect for humnan rights now than when it took over Tibet and then moved to strip away Tibettan culture and make it thoroughly Chinese, so that in a few generations none will wish to go back
A boycott is hell for the athletes, but given the loss of face if it took place might be the card to play to get China to act.
However the posters raise a good point--those in favor of such tactics shouod ask why their countries haven't done more to answer the African Union's call for logistical aid
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The criticism and barbs hurled at China have nothing to do with human rights but more to do with China’s growth and increasingly favourable acceptance by the developing world as an alternative to the West and its self-righteous meddling. The intent of all this criticism is to put China ‘in her place,’ since she challenges the hegemony of the West and is winning hearts and minds with little effort in the so-called Third world. China-bashing is part of a concentrated Western propaganda offensive to check China’s military, economic and political influence. Spielberg and Mia Farrow and all the other gold-plated celebrities wittingly or unwittingly are tools of this anti-China offensive. They would be better off addressing real problems like race and poverty in the ghettoes of the US or the well-known abuses of the Guantanamo Gulag or Israel’s daily butchering of the Palestinians. In any case Darfur is an African problem and Africans should be left to solve their own problems without the intervention of sanctimonious celebrities and Western strategic interests
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Have all the good people forgotten BURMA whose poor souls have been sufferrring for more than 40 years (as against 4 in Darfur) ???
By its nature, China will only understand PRESSURE and THREAT of a serious BOYCOTT to 2008 Beijing Olympics and 2009 Shanghai ? EXPO
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"China-bashing is part of a concentrated Western propaganda offensive to check China’s military, economic and political influence"
Nothing could be further from the truth. China gets a staggeringly easy ride in the press because every major media corporation is greedily eyeing up the biggest untapped market.
Do you really believe that Time Warner and Murdoch would allow a few pesky human rights abuses get in the way of profits? Dream on
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The corporate greed-fest that is the Olympics will carry on regardless. Olympic ideals? What a sick joke! Sports = business = politics. The link is indissoluble. The whole world has been duped by the Chinese; like the people of China, we have one option: put up, shut up, & make some money if you can
Maybe the sportsmen/women should stop to think that their sports are being prostituted by big business & cheesy nationalism
I intend to ignore the whole obscene charade by going on holiday where there are no televisions
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think it seems rather hypocritical, yet almost typical to target a developing country and its business ties. While developed countries sell 85% of the weapons to those in the developing world, and continue to profit directly from wars, developing and the third world cannot even open its mouth save from being criticized
China of course should be criticized, yet who else is giving business to Africa (it has deals not just with Sudan)? Also China needs oil, it has more than 1/6th of the world's population, developed countries would love to see China not get that oil (i.e. from Sudan) and struggle as a world power. Of course business and politics should mix, i.e. boycotting Israeli goods until they withdraw from the territories, boycott on apartheid South Africa, etc. Yet what about this phrase "regime change begins at home?" The US, NATO, and the UK are still occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. The US which has much more influence and money than China to stop the atrocity in Sudan is not getting any pressure? Must we put sanctions on Sudan until the people are starving like in Iraq?
I don't see anything constructive except everyone pointing fingers. But at least the Chinese aren't selling machetes to the Sudanese like the French did right up and during the Rwandan genocide
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| A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 04:51 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 05:06 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 05:12 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 05:21 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 05:26 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 05:44 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 07:07 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 07:28 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 07:46 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 07:52 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 08:02 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 08:07 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 08:11 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 10:37 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-14-08, 10:56 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-15-08, 03:48 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-15-08, 04:51 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-15-08, 06:01 PM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-16-08, 02:50 AM |
| Re: A letter from the world's Nobel laureates to China: You must act on Darfur | Mohamed Omer | 02-16-08, 02:03 PM |
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