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 Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي (Re: Outcast)
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
For Immediate Release
February 6, 2004
2004/133
Interview
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell
Roundtable on African Issues
February 6, 2004
New York, New York
(12:15 p.m. EST)
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, the U.S. sent troops to Liberia, and now you
are
leading the daughter of reform. You have not taken criminal action for
all
the African crises, such as the DRC.
SECRETARY POWELL: Such as?
QUESTION: The DRC. Democratic --
QUESTION: Democratic Republic of the Congo, DRC.
SECRETARY POWELL: Oh, DRC.
QUESTION: Yeah.
SECRETARY POWELL: Sorry.
QUESTION: What makes Liberia so special? And will you be similarly
committed to all the African nations in the future?
SECRETARY POWELL: Liberia is somewhat unique in that it was established
by
American slaves, as you well know, in the 19th century, and there has
always
been this historically cultural connection to the United States.
Monrovia
is named after an American President. Liberia means liberated from
slavery
in the United States. So there's always been this connection. And
Liberia
was never a colony of one of the European powers, so we felt a certain
connection to it.
This doesn't mean, however, that we are indifferent to other crises in
Africa. We have financed a great deal of the work in Sierra Leone. We
are
now looking for money to assist with the peacekeeping operation in Cote
D'Ivoire. We have been deeply involved in the DRC and helping it to
resolve
its conflict. We've stayed in touch with President Kabila and
President*
Nsibambi in Uganda. We are deeply involved in trying to resolve the
conflict in the Sudan and we are trying to play a good role in the
problem
between Ethiopia and Eritrean border.
So I think the United States' record of this Administration is quite
good.
And it is not just a matter of resolving conflicts. It's the money
we're
putting into HIV/AIDS, which is the greatest conflict in Sub-Saharan
Africa,
and the new organization that we just created and I've chaired the first
meeting of, the Millennium Challenge Corporation, is putting huge
amounts of
money into undeveloped countries. So I think the United States' record
in
Africa is quite good in this Administration, and I think it will get
better
as these new monies start to flow.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, the Administration has made clear that there's
a
concern about al-Qaida and terrorist links in various parts of Africa,
and
one of those places, Somalia, there's been some discussion about U.S.
efforts to possibly make a push to create a functional government.
Where
does that stand, at a high --
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, as you know, there was some progress recently
on
coming -- Somalians coming together and to form a government. We would
very
much like to see a government formed, a responsible government that can
govern this ungovernable country that's been ungovernable for a long
time.
I have more than a passing interest in this. As Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, we sent peacekeeping and rescue forces in there in late
1992 to stop the starvation, end the starvation, which we did, then it
turned into a more tragic situation when we weren't able to solve the
political problem.
So we would be willing to play a role in moving this forward, and I
think we
have been playing a helpful role. But ultimately the Somalians have to
figure out whether or not they're going to rally behind this new
political
arrangement or continue to allow conflict to take place based on clan
and
sub-clan loyalties. And I hope this new initiative will be a success.
QUESTION: (Inaudible) of Nigeria. What would be your assessment of the
current democratic situation in Nigeria with the second term of the new
president, just as an example, are you impressed? Do you think that the
Nigerian Government participated in the democratic process?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, you've had two elections. I monitored the
first
election, the election that brought President Obasanjo into office.
Myself
and President Carter were part of that election, election group. I
think
that President -- the President has made progress but I think there's
much
more to be done with respect to ending corruption, with respect to
transparency in government. And we have spoken openly and directly to
our
Nigerian friends about it. We have good relations with Nigeria.
We would like to see better conditions for attracting trade and
investment
in Nigeria. And Nigeria still has a long way to go. But I think that
the
President knows what he has to do, and he has made progress during his
first
term. And I'm confident he will make progress during his second term.
QUESTION: You've spoken about the importance of peace in Liberia, for
the
region, as you were saying, but I just wondered in particular about the
Ivory Coast. It appears that there is strong opposition from the United
States about (inaudible).
SECRETARY POWELL: It's not the concept of peacekeeping. We know that
has
to be done. And we know that the UN should play a role and there should
be
a UN peacekeeping force. We are discussing with the UN peacekeeping
authorities, as well as our friends in the UN, other countries in the UN
Security Council on how large that force should be. There are limits to
how
many peacekeeping forces we're able to support at any one time, and
there
are other demands that we know are coming our way.
In addition to Cote d'Ivoire and what we're doing in Liberia, if we get
a
settlement in Sudan, which I think is likely if we can solve the problem
of
Abyei, which I think you're all familiar with, then there will be
another
requirement there for 8- to 10,000 UN monitors, so another bill. And we
have finite -- believe it or not -- we have finite resources. So we
want to
make sure that we are sizing these missions properly, and that's what
the
discussion is.
QUESTION: Are you committed to sending some amount, or are you sending
people too?
SECRETARY POWELL: Money. No, our -- no, in Cote d'Ivoire, I think
it's,
for us it's a matter of finance, not troops.
QUESTION: I mean --
SECRETARY POWELL: It's just that I don't think anybody's asking for or
is
in need of U.S. troops. There are troops available. It's a matter of
financing them.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, it seems that when his country was picked up,
not
only it's like a (inaudible) dimension, I mean, when there is a conflict
there is conflict everywhere, it seems like that.
But it seems, also, to me that "democracy" is a word that still we do
not
understand or the head of government. And they don't have a vision of
what
a state can be and corruption. I'm sorry to say that, but it's really
the
big problem. So how do you expect to address those problems? Because
you're giving money to Liberia. But should not it be the head of
government
who should take care of, I mean, Africa and whatever, and not foreign
government take care of, you know, ourselves?
SECRETARY POWELL: We have to help Liberia with foreign assistance right
now. We'll make sure we know where the assistance is going. We are no
longer in an environment where I can just go to the Congress and say,
give
me $200 million and we're just going to give it to Liberians to do what
they
want with it. So we will watch where the money's going.
But this is a country that, at the moment, almost has no income. The
bureaucracy, you know, they're in buildings that have no desks, offices
with
no phones. So a lot of money is required right now to get Liberia up
and
started, and I'm very impressed by Chairman Bryant and his commitment to
get
this going. We knew it would be difficult.
We, in our foreign policy, are making it clear to all of the nations
that we
work with that we will start holding them to higher standards of
accountability, not just in Africa -- the Eastern European nations that
come
to see me, the Central Asian nations, the nations from my own
hemisphere, in
the western hemisphere, we say to them, "If you want to have good
relations
with us, but more importantly, if you want us to help you, you have to
show
us the rule of law, you have to show us fair elections, you have to show
us
the end of corruption."
Corruption destroys democracy. You cannot have a democracy if the
people
see that their money is thrown away. And one important tool we're going
to
have is the new Millennium Challenge Account. Everybody now wants to be
in
line to receive money from the Millennium Challenge Account.
I'm going to have a billion dollars this year, and every year it's going
to
go up so that when it's fully funded -- in about three years, I think it
is
-- $5 billion every year will be available. And guess what? You don't
have
the rule of law, you can't convince us that you are running your country
in
a non-corrupt manner, or you are throwing the media in jail, or you are
not
allowing companies to operate openly and freely and with some
expectation
that their property and their investment will be protected, you won't be
eligible.
I've already had many countries come to us and say, "We know we're not
eligible now. What, what do we have to do? Tell us what we have to do
to
get eligible." We tell them. "This is what you have to do. Let me see
a
commercial code. Let me see you protecting human rights. Let me see
you
protecting women's rights. Let me see you getting rid of trafficking in
persons. We want to see if you have any child soldiers on your side.
Are
you allowing terrorists to use your country," all the things that are
destructive and corrosive to democracy, we will be measuring that.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, just generally to -- how do you make the case
to
Africa as a continent that, with the amount of money that's being spent
in
the rebuilding of Iraq that you can now say, "I'm sorry. We can't
afford X
number of thousand peacekeepers in your country," whether it's Ivory
Coast
or elsewhere on the continent? How do you make that case?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, it's not a hard case to make because it is not
as
if there are not peacekeepers around. It is not hard to find
peacekeepers
in a number of countries in the world if they can be equipped and
financed
and transported and sustained in the field. You don't need American
soldiers to do this. American soldiers are peacekeepers right now in
Iraq.
American soldiers have been helping to keep the peace in Korea for the
last,
almost 50 years.
But for the kinds of peacekeeping missions that are taking place in
Africa
right now, we find countries that are anxious to do it and willing to do
it.
And we provide assistance, and as you know, some of the Nigerian troops
that
initially went into Liberia were trained by American programs, where we
helped these countries that are willing to provide peacekeepers to gain
the
capability and the training needed, and the equipment needed and we are
looking at expanding those programs to help other nations.
But we don't believe that it is the -- it's always the correct choice to
ask
Americans to do the peacekeeping when others are ready, willing and
able.
We have peacekeepers in Bosnia. We have peacekeepers in Kosovo. So we
are
doing a fair share.
QUESTION: Specifically, as regards to the numbers of the Ivory Coast?
SECRETARY POWELL: Yeah, there's an issue. Some people think as many as
6,400 to 7,000 might be needed and others think a lower number might be
adequate. That's the debate that's taking place. It's a financing
issue,
of course.
QUESTION: But the French would love to switch from what, you know,
(inaudible) to the UN --
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I understand that. I mean, it's -- the United
States has an armed force and France has an armed force that is
expeditionary in nature. It has to be stationed in certain places like
Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, but it has to be ready to go other places. And
you
can't tie it down for long periods of time in peacekeeping activities.
Troops are also expensive, and for this reason, I'm sure that the French
are
anxious to spread the burden in Cote d'Ivoire. But I'm pleased that the
French took the lead in solving the problem initially. And of course,
as
the United States has historic connections to Liberia, France has
historic
connections to the nations in Francophone Africa.
QUESTION: Talking about corruption, Mr. Secretary, an American company
Haliburton, but as just (inaudible) the Nigerian Government about its
(inaudible). How do you think this affects the kind of image that
America
is showing (inaudible) Nigeria, the way that other people look to
America,
as they once did. And we have a situation where an African company has
cheated the government of (inaudible).
SECRETARY POWELL: Has what? Cheated?
QUESTION: Yes. (Inaudible) about $2.5 million. How do you think that,
you
know, reconciles with the (inaudible) U.S. (inaudible)?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, we don't want to see any of our countries*
cheated
by a country in which they're investing. And we don't want to see any
of
our companies take advantage of a government of a country in which they
are
invested or located. We want to see no corruption and total
transparency,
not only for the government, but for our companies as well.
And so in this case, I don't know what the facts are, and because it is
a
case that is in litigation, I won't comment on it. I don't know who's
right
or who's wrong. Our Justice Department handles such matters. But we do
not
want -- we will not tolerate bad behavior on the part of American
companies,
just as we would not want to see bad behavior on the part of the
government.
In this particular case of Haliburton, I'm not making that judgment
because
I don't know anything about the facts and it's for our Justice
Department.
QUESTION: What does the U.S. think should now happen to former Liberian
leader, Charles Taylor? Do you think he should face sanctions? Should
he
go straight to trial? And do you think it's more important for him, for
example, to face justice rather than (inaudible)?
SECRETARY POWELL: I think he is still subject to justice of the type
expected by the international tribunal. We supported the international
tribunal and he's under charges, and it's a matter now between him and
the
tribunal.
Because of the crisis we were facing last year, Nigeria was willing to
take
Mr. Taylor with the understanding that Nigeria would then not find
itself in
difficulty from the international community or from the tribunal. And
everybody accepted that at the time because we needed to end the
violence in
Liberia and it worked. And Mr. Taylor is isolated in Nigeria but he has
not
escaped the desire of the court to see him stand before the court. But
right now, it's a matter between Mr. Taylor and the court.
QUESTION: What about sanctions?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I don't -- the sanction of him?
QUESTION: Sanctions against Taylor, exactly.
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I know that the Liberian Government and other
governments are checking into his, his well -- his wherewithal, and to
the
extent that we can be helpful to the transitional government, we will do
so.
QUESTION: But would you say that -- this is just a follow-up, sir.
Would
you say that you agree then with Mr. Klein that the rebuilding can go
ahead
without too much trouble, even if he isn't brought to justice?
SECRETARY POWELL: I think Mr. Taylor is a spent force, and we want to
keep
him a spent force in isolation in Nigeria. He is still subject to the
court
and there are occasional reports that he might be meddling in Liberia
politics. And every now and then, you'll read a report that he's trying
to
raise forces in Nigeria. But I have no reason to believe that that's an
accurate report.
And so I don't see any reason why the rebuilding can't go ahead. It
must go
ahead. The rebuilding and the reconstruction and the disarmament will
not
be held hostage to Mr. Taylor's personal fortune, or lack thereof.
QUESTION: Secretary Powell, talking about NEPAD, you know, had a lot of
comments on (inaudible) in NEPAD. What is it that you don't support?
SECRETARY POWELL: We support -- we think NEPAD is a good program, and
we
have tried to demonstrate in every way we can that we will provide the
political support and as it, as it structures itself and gets further
into
its work, there will be other forms of support we can provide. But I
think
that we've tried to express to the originators of NEPAD, especially the
South Africans and President Mbeki, our support of NEPAD.
QUESTION: Do you think -- talking about -- talking about (inaudible) in
the
conflict, do you believe that the two-year mandate is not (inaudible)
for
the economy, (inaudible) with nonmilitary (inaudible) elections; in
another
word, to put the country in the right track, it is not easily going to
show?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, you know, you have to put deadlines on things.
You
have to have action-forcing deadlines. And two years is not a long
period
of time, but in my conversations with Chairman Bryant today he did not
ask
for more time. He is anxious to move. And he is anxious to have that
deadline out there so that he can generate support for what he's doing
now,
and the kind of support that's being generated here at this meeting
today.
Okay. Thank you.
QUESTION: Thank you.
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 الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 06:20 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | james | 02-10-04, 06:36 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 06:49 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 06:55 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 06:59 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | kamalabas | 02-10-04, 07:07 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-10-04, 07:12 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 07:17 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 07:19 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Imad El amin | 02-10-04, 07:19 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 07:25 PM |
 Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | sultan | 02-10-04, 08:04 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Imad El amin | 02-10-04, 07:34 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-10-04, 07:40 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | kamalabas | 02-10-04, 07:53 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | rani | 02-10-04, 08:45 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-11-04, 07:52 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-11-04, 07:47 AM |
 Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Nada Amin | 02-10-04, 09:14 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Outcast | 02-11-04, 02:26 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-11-04, 02:44 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-11-04, 08:03 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-11-04, 07:58 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-11-04, 11:25 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | shammashi | 02-11-04, 12:44 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | sari_alail | 02-11-04, 12:24 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | abuguta | 02-11-04, 02:05 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خضر حسين خليل | 02-11-04, 08:22 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | sharnobi | 02-11-04, 08:38 PM |
 Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | ASAAD IBRAHIM | 02-11-04, 09:11 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | مراويد | 02-11-04, 09:08 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Abdel Aati | 02-12-04, 02:20 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-12-04, 02:38 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-12-04, 07:56 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-12-04, 09:21 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Shinteer | 02-12-04, 09:44 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-12-04, 11:35 AM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | abuguta | 02-12-04, 11:50 AM |
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| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-12-04, 12:06 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-12-04, 12:09 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | اساسي | 02-12-04, 12:15 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-12-04, 12:26 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Abdel Aati | 02-12-04, 03:24 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | خالد الحاج | 02-12-04, 03:46 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | Abdel Aati | 02-13-04, 00:37 AM |
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| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | samo | 02-12-04, 12:27 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | mohamed osman bakry | 02-12-04, 03:03 PM |
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| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | mohamed osman bakry | 02-12-04, 03:54 PM |
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| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | ASAAD IBRAHIM | 02-12-04, 04:45 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | مراويد | 02-12-04, 12:41 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | EXORCIST7 | 02-12-04, 02:50 PM |
| Re: الشيوعيون باعوا القضية وفضحونا من اجل عيون خالد الحاج نستدل بشرنوبي | ASAAD IBRAHIM | 02-12-04, 05:39 PM |
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