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 Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** (Re: Foolish beat)
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Ashraf
| Quote: Thirdly, your claim that Canada and Belgium are suffering because of the multiculturalism puzzles me. You could have backed up your claim by whatever means you can. In Canada, the region of Quebec is the main region which applies a bilingual policy in that it uses French besides English. |
Please check the accuracy of the information you post before writing it. Quebec is a unilingual French province in Canada. The government of Quebec recognizes only the French language as the only medium within its territory. Perhaps you meant to say the government of Canada which is bilingual in all of its institution and the services it provides to its citizens. But regardless, whether the federal government is bilinigual or unilingual, separatist movements are moving well towards their goal. The recent election have given them way too much seats in the federal elections. Had the policy of federal (not provincial) bilingualism been that successful you would have unlikely seen such a lingering seperation aspirations. Now you know where your puzzlement is coming from. It is the accuracy of your information my dear. You will not solve the problems of multi-culturalism by simply envisioning sudan to among the many you mentioned as a multi-lingual society.
| Quote: May I ask you a simple question: who you are to put such an essentialist proclamation? Where did you get this god-given right to decide on behalf of the masses? The aloofness in your tone says that the country has a particular owner who decides who to join in and under what conditions. |
I speak of behalf of nobody but myself and call on people who share my similar views. I did not appoint my self to speak on behalf of the masses nor you is also here to speak on behalf of anybody. We both speak our opinions. You are welcomed to create or build any multi-cultural or multi-lingual society as you wish, but I also have the right to agree or decide not to join such a group. See this thing of rights works both ways. You will not come and impose on me a multi-cultural or multi-ethnic/lingual government as you see fits. May along the same line ask who are you to come and dictate upon me a multi-cultural or lingual society. I have no interest in living in such a country nor my tax money will go to fund multi-lingual programs and all the associated jargon that comes with it. That applies to both north or south.
| Quote: No my friend, the marginalised and disadvantaged people had enough and they have no tears to cry over the spilt milk, and they are not prepared to cry their beloved history any more. |
Marginalized people have every right to speak on behalf of their problems, but not mine. They can advocate and call for whatever solution they find to meet their goals. I also have the right to accept and join them, or the right to reject and leave any union that will not be up to the best of my interests.
| Quote: Neither the south nor the west has delegated the right to secessionism to a handful of power holders and mythical nation-builders |
Nor did I. So now you gave yourself the right to speak on behalf of the masses of the south and north as I see
| Quote: But you can adopt a problmetising practice and asks yourself: why on earth do the southerners or even the westerners have to adopt a particular package of linguistic and cultural practices that are not theirs? Why do they have to cry their local languages and cultures for the sake of the ‘Otherness’? |
This is why to relieve them from the agony I am putting seperation as an option for all. Southerners or others who have no interest in living within an arabic sudan are welcomed not to. In a similar fashion the other way round applies
| Quote: Finally, you conclude your mock-serious comments by declaring that “Separation is a good option for those who might not want to live under one Arabic language and culture”. It is remarkable there is flagrant linguicism (parallel to racism) in this sentence. |
It is very easy to attribute racism to an seperation movement. Would you do the same for vast majority of the bases of the SPLM, IRA or PQ, I doubt!
I will reply some other time to your culture language relation
Thank you
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| *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Foolish beat | 08-30-04, 07:40 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Adil Osman | 08-30-04, 12:01 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 08-30-04, 03:27 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | noha_g | 09-01-04, 04:46 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-01-04, 04:55 PM |
 Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Ashraf Kamal | 09-01-04, 09:11 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-03-04, 07:53 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Ashraf Kamal | 09-06-04, 03:20 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Ashraf Kamal | 09-06-04, 03:55 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-06-04, 07:18 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Ashraf Kamal | 09-07-04, 01:33 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | noha_g | 09-07-04, 02:45 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Ashraf Kamal | 09-13-04, 01:32 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-07-04, 06:06 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | Deng | 09-07-04, 06:36 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | noha_g | 09-08-04, 09:49 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-09-04, 06:32 PM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | noha_g | 09-16-04, 03:01 AM |
| Re: *** The Imperialism of Sudan Northern Arabic Language and Culture *** | zoul"ibn"zoul | 09-12-04, 06:32 AM |
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