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Hashim Badr Eldin
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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Adil Osman)

    Dear Adil Osman
    Assalamu alaikum

    Alex De Waal is (until someone coins a better phrase) an SPLA and John Garang’s hater, and we are familiar with him and his activities.
    Leaving the word expert aside, him being a researcher who wrote extensively about Sudan, is a declarative fact and not news to me, I have read some of his work and I know he is not mother Teresa, and he doesn’t do it for the sake of Jesus Christ.

    When you say he was chosen as a consultant to the African union, it begs the question: who (in the African union or in heaven) made the choosing, and who set the criteria and gauged the knowledge and expertise pertinent to our miserable country, and who else was on the short list of the so-called experts. And if the African union can’t find, within the boundaries of their continent, experts with intimate knowledge about Sudan, why in hell are they peeping their noses in its business.
    Quote: As for the Darfur Peace Agreement, I find it a great step towards peace and stability and protection of the lives of million of people in the region
    The agreement also contained some very promising provisions which could put sudan and darfur in the right track, in terms of democratic transformation, and power sharing and wealth sharing by the people of darfur

    The same had been said about Alsharief Alhindi’s agreement and about Riech Machar’s agreement and about Naviasha and Jeddah and Cairo agreements, and the same will be said about all future agreements. Events of the last three days prove that people in the refugee camps don’t share your opinion.
    Quote: As for the threat to Abdelwahid Mohamed Nur, the leader of SLM/SLA who is yet to sign the peace agreemnet, I find it difficult to understand. We need to verify this piece attributed to Alex de Waal

    I don’t know if I should read this as an accusation with falsification, or self delusion on your behalf; here is the full letter and the man’s email address. Write him.
    [email protected]
    truly
    Hashim Badr Eldin
    Quote:

    many thanks for your message, which I have read carefully and
    considered. As a statement of the grievances and just demands of Darfurian people it is superb. As a proposal for a solution to the problem at hand, in which an armed Movement has failed to win a war, has extremely weak political structures, and is divided among itself, is facing an undefeated and powerful government that is recognized by the international community and has won legitimacy for its CPA with the South, it does not work.

    If you defeat your adversary on the battlefield you can dictate your
    terms. If you do not do so, no matter how deep the suffering of your
    people and how just and righteous your cause, you cannot do so. It is
    necessary to compromise.


    In my considered view, the provisions for security arrangements in the
    DPA are superb. I think there are few better. For the sake of the
    people in Darfur who are dying each day, I think that is reason enough to sign the DPA. Abdel Wahid himself has said that he finds no fault with the security arrangements. It includes disarming the Janjaweed,
    downsizing the PDF, integrating the Movements' forces into the army, etc.


    Those who reject those security arrangements should consider their
    responsibilities before the court of history very carefully indeed.

    The provisions for wealth-sharing are strong. Individual compensation
    is there. Reconstruction and development is there. It is true that not
    all the figures have been finalized. But the key to the resources is
    international commitment, and that is immense. It may not always be so.
    Remember the billions committed to Somalia, and the total disinterest in Somalia after the Somalis disagreed with the international solution to their problem.

    The provisions for power-sharing are a painful compromise. But it is
    important that you consider what is positive in the Agreement. Let me
    just point to two things. One is the TDRA, which is controlled
    overwhelmingly by the nominees of the Movements. Could the Mediation have proposed a region for Darfur with strong powers? Yes it could, but the price of that would have been that the NCP would have controlled 50% of it at minimum with the rest divided between the Movements and the independents.

    Surely, better to have a TDRA with specific powers and competencies
    (and a known budget already in excess of $600 million--compared to
    $10-12million for each state government) that you control, than a regional government you dont. Second, there are ELECTIONS. Democracy is coming. In his personal letter to Abdel Wahid, President Bush promised assistance to turn the SLM into a political party to compete in elections. When Bob Zoellick read out that letter, President Obasanjo said, "I want one too!" No other rebel leader or indeed civilian party leader has received such offers of support. If the Movements win the elections and the referendum on the status of Darfur, you will have EVERYTHING you want. That is in 3 and 4 years time.


    If this peace deal is rejected I strongly fear that in 3 or 4 years
    time you will still be writing your letters and appeals and justifiably
    pointing out the perfidy and deceit of the GoS and the international
    community over Darfur--by that time piled on with a few years of neglect as the world has washed its hands of this intractable problem (like Somalia).

    The whole mediation has left Abuja save Sam Ibok, Boubou Niang and
    myself. President Obasanjo met with Abdel Wahid today and passed us a
    message, saying he doesnt want to speak to him again as he is just wasting time. The Americans say they won't speak to him unless he signs--or when he's in court. (Believe me they are 100% serious.) Sam and Boubou have also given up on the man. They leave Thursday morning with the signed copies of DPA to Addis Ababa.

    On 15th the Peace and Security Council will deposit the DPA with the AU and UN Security Council. In the 30 hours that are left for Abdel Wahid to sign, please encourage him to do the only responsible thing.

    The DPA isn't perfect. But it is one hell of a lot better than staying
    out in the cold. This chance will not come again. Never.

    Alex



    (عدل بواسطة Hashim Badr Eldin on 05-15-2006, 05:04 PM)

                  

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Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-13-06, 03:33 AM
  Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Muhib05-13-06, 04:09 AM
    Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-13-06, 05:37 AM
  Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Adil Osman05-13-06, 07:12 AM
    Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-15-06, 03:29 PM
      Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-15-06, 04:01 PM
        Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Ahmed Mohamedain05-15-06, 04:23 PM
        Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Ahmed Mohamedain05-15-06, 04:28 PM
          Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-15-06, 05:20 PM
  Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Adil Osman05-15-06, 04:37 PM
    Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-15-06, 05:03 PM
      Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read Hashim Badr Eldin05-15-06, 06:55 PM
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