الفاتح جبرا .. في ذمة الله
نعى اليم ...... سودانيز اون لاين دوت كم تحتسب د. الفاتح يوسف جبرا فى رحمه الله
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Re: عاااااااااااجل مطالب الحركة الشعبية قطاع الشمال في مفاوضات السلام الدايرة حالياً (Re: مني عمسيب)
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قيام حكومة قومية او حكومة اجماع وطني او اي اسم من هكذا مسميات هو تحصيل حاصل طالما ظلت هذه القوات رهينة توجيهات المؤتمر اللاوطني وطالما ظلت كل مفاصل الدولة بايديهم نتاج سياسة تمكين مجرمه.....يجب ازالة كل هذه البني القمعية والموالية بغير حق قبل الدخول في اي مشاركه.......وقبل هذا وذاك اغاثة الاهالي في دار فور والمنطقتين ثم يجب ان لا ننسي مبدأ المحاسبة بعد حل الجهاز القضائي وتكوين آخر قومي ونزيه
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Re: عاااااااااااجل مطالب الحركة الشعبية قطاع الشمال في مفاوضات السلام الدايرة حالياً (Re: Omer Abdalla Omer)
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مافي سبب للكذب والافتراء
هو يادوب الان افتتحت الجلسة الاولي متين كدا جاك مطالبنا
مهم تشوف خطابنا الذي قدمه كبير المفاوضيين
The SPLM-N Statement at the Opening Session of the Addis Ababa Negotiations on February 13, 2014 Your Excellency, President Thabo Mbeki, Chair of the AUHIP, Your Excellency, President Abdul Salami Abubaker, The Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations, Haile Menkerios, The Representative of IGAD and the Government of Ethiopia. Observers, The leader of the Sudan government delegation, Ibrahim Ghandor, Members of the two delegations, Ladies and Gentleman of the Press and Media, President Mbeki, please allow me to once again convey the SPLM-N’s deepest condolences on the passing of the last African prophet of peace, reconciliation, social justice and democracy, the icon of the African and humanity’s struggle, former Chairman of the African National Congress, the late President Nelson Mandela, whose spirit and courage to create a society founded on equal citizenship - away from divisions based on ethnicity and religion - is much needed in the Sudan of today. From his vision, courage and determination, the Sudanese people can draw important lessons, mindful of their own particularities and the great history of Sudan, which is part of the Nile Valley civilization, one of the oldest and greatest known civilizations that has contributed significantly to the advancement of human civilization. Sudan is passing through a very unique situation and we arrive at the peace talks again understanding that a new perspective and attitude are required in order to usher our country into a new era of just peace, democracy, and social justice which will allow a national consensus to emerge that can lead us to and through an agreed upon nation-building program. I would like to affirm at the opening of these talks that the SPLM-N believes in a peaceful settlement, not a military settlement. A durable and sustainable peaceful settlement, however, can only and better be achieved through national consensus. It is high time for Sudan to move away from being defined by ethnic and religious parameters and instead to enter a new social and political dispensation that is built on unity in diversity and based on our commonalities. The diversity of Sudan is a blessing to its people and the unity of Sudan can only be attained by respecting its diversity. The SPLM-N is encouraged by the signals from our sisters and brothers on the other side of the table that it is a moment for change; it is a moment for a holistic approach; and it is a moment for democratic transformation, social justice, and the respect of human rights including the right of equal citizenship. We believe the two parties can make this moment a reality by addressing the humanitarian tragedy taking place in the Two Areas, and thereby providing a model to be applied as well in Darfur and Northern Kordofan. Without putting an end to the humanitarian crisis caused by the denial of access for the delivery of humanitarian aid to the populations in desperate need; and without stopping the aerial and ground bombardment of innocent civilians while also refusing to release prisoners of war and political detainees, the seriousness of these talks and the usefulness of this great AUHIP forum will be questioned by the Sudanese people, and in particular those who are in the war zones. The right for humanitarian assistance should not be conditioned politically and at the same time we are ever-ready to resolve political issues as well. Resolving the humanitarian crisis shall create a conducive atmosphere to resolve the political and security issues. As the SPLM-N has stated repeatedly, it is high time to implement the Addis Ababa Framework Agreement of 28 June 2011, which will lead to a national constitutional process and a transitional government that carries the support of the massive majority of political parties and civil societies in the opposition and in the government and that is required by the AU resolutions and the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2046. Stopping the war from Blue Nile to Nuba Mountains to Northern Kordofan and Darfur and then addressing the root causes of war in a national constitutional conference are the only answers to Sudan’s political and economic crises. As we are speaking today, more than 70% of the national budget is being used by the government to conduct a war against its own citizens, which has resulted in crippling repercussions and war crimes. Sudan can only re-build a healthy national, regional and international relations by ending these wars and fully accepting democratic transformation. We truly believe that the continuation of wars in the marginalized areas of Sudan will hurt the future of the unity of Sudan as it did before in the case of South Sudan. Therefore, we call upon the Sudan government to accept one forum to end the war with the Sudan Revolutionary Front; and we believe that President Thabo Mbeki, the AUHIP and Mohamed Ibn Chambas, Joint AU-UN Special Representative for Darfur, Head of UNAMID and Joint Chief Mediator, can work as one team to facilitate this new forum with the support of the African and international communities. The SPLM-N came to Addis Ababa with an open heart and mind and with the necessary political will to amicably resolve once and for all, with our brothers and sisters from the Sudan government, the serious issues that prevent our country from becoming, once again, a truly great nation. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif Yasir Arman On behalf of the SPLM-N Delegation to the Addis Ababa Peace Talks 13 February 2014
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Re: عاااااااااااجل مطالب الحركة الشعبية قطاع الشمال في مفاوضات السلام الدايرة حالياً (Re: مبارك عبدالرحمن احمد)
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يا راعي البوست
Quote: عاجل ... مطالب قطاع الشمال بالمفاوضات المنعقدة الآن بالعاصمة الأثيوبية يطالب بحل القوات المسلحة السودانية وجهاز الأمن والشرطة وجهاز الأمن وأيضا يطالب بعدم جعل اللغة العربية الرسمية للدولة السودانية |
كدي في الاول نسأل وجهاز الامن مكررها مرتين مالك؟ أهي العجلة أم الخوف أم الخوف؟؟؟ إذا كانت الحركة الشعبية قد طالبت بذلك فإنها تستحق إحترامي الشديد جيش الإنقلابات المهزوم ديمة هذا والذي فصل الجنوب ويعمل علي إنفصال ما تبقي من وطن لا بواكي عليه
حل جهاز الأمن؟؟؟ ودي دايرة مفاوضات !!!! الشرطة ما تتحل بس محتاجة لتصفيات تقرب من الحل لكل كودار الديكتاتورية الفاسدين الفاقد التربوي والأخلاقي
كدي فكر فيها بشوية عقل وضمير الأمن والجيش بيصرفوا أكثر من 72 في المية من ميزانية السودان والصحة 1 في المية والتعليم 1 في المية يعني يتحل الأمن والجيش نوفر 72 في المية لو أدينا الصحة 15 في المية التعليم 15 في المية والباقي للزراعة والصناعة والحاجات المهمة مش ممكن نبقي من الدول المتقدمة في سنوات معدودات؟؟؟؟؟؟
وقال راعي البوست كذلك
Quote: انتظرنا ان تكون المطالب صحة وتعليم وعدالة وحرية وووو |
ما هو التعليم والصحة والعدالة والحرية وووو حيجيبوا ليهم قروش من وين لو ما حلوا جهاز الأمن والجيش والعواطلية القاعدين لكتابة التقارير عن الناس (والكتابة المدفوعة في هذا الموقع)؟؟؟؟؟؟ بعدين يفاوضوكم في التعليم والصحة والعدالة ليه؟؟؟ دي ما شغلكم القلت إنه بسببه عملتوا الإنقلاب
قال أمير
Quote: الحوار مع الحركة الشعبية شمال يجب ان ينحصر فى مشكلة النيل الأزرق وجنوب كردفان فقط ... أما إذا أرادوا التحاور فى مشاكل السودان عامة فهناك مؤتمر الحوار الوطني الذي يتم الأعداد له فى الخرطوم الان ... والذي ستشارك فيه كل القوي السياسية.... |
أعتقد أنها حركة سياسية لكل السودان مش إقليم إقليمين وتستحق إحترامي إن فاوضت في كل مشاكل كل السودان
نسأل مصدر الخبر أين هذا المدعو مؤتمر الحوار ومن المدعو له؟؟؟؟ وألا تتفق معي في أن الحكومة عندما تفاوض الترابي والميرغني والصادق فإنها تفاوض نفسها؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
Quote: هو بالله التفاوض كان منتظرينو حول الصحة و التعليم؟ |
ها ها ها ريحتني يا محجوب
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Re: عاااااااااااجل مطالب الحركة الشعبية قطاع الشمال في مفاوضات السلام الدايرة حالياً (Re: Nasr)
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خطاب ياسر عرمان
أرجو من صاحب البوست أن يدلنا على المقاطع التي أوردها
Quote: Omer Osman The SPLM-N Statement at the Opening Session of the Addis Ababa Negotiations on February 13, 2014
Your Excellency, President Thabo Mbeki, Chair of the AUHIP, Your Excellency, President Abdul Salami Abubaker, The Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations, Haile Menkerios, The Representative of IGAD and the Government of Ethiopia. Observers, The leader of the Sudan government delegation, Ibrahim Ghandor, Members of the two delegations, Ladies and Gentleman of the Press and Media,
President Mbeki, please allow me to once again convey the SPLM-N’s deepest condolences on the passing of the last African prophet of peace, reconciliation, social justice and democracy, the icon of the African and humanity’s struggle, former Chairman of the African National Congress, the late President Nelson Mandela, whose spirit and courage to create a society founded on equal citizenship - away from divisions based on ethnicity and religion - is much needed in the Sudan of today. From his vision, courage and determination, the Sudanese people can draw important lessons, mindful of their own particularities and the great history of Sudan, which is part of the Nile Valley civilization, one of the oldest and greatest known civilizations that has contributed significantly to the advancement of human civilization.
Sudan is passing through a very unique situation and we arrive at the peace talks again understanding that a new perspective and attitude are required in order to usher our country into a new era of just peace, democracy, and social justice which will allow a national consensus to emerge that can lead us to and through an agreed upon nation-building program.
I would like to affirm at the opening of these talks that the SPLM-N believes in a peaceful settlement, not a military settlement. A durable and sustainable peaceful settlement, however, can only and better be achieved through national consensus. It is high time for Sudan to move away from being defined by ethnic and religious parameters and instead to enter a new social and political dispensation that is built on unity in diversity and based on our commonalities. The diversity of Sudan is a blessing to its people and the unity of Sudan can only be attained by respecting its diversity.
The SPLM-N is encouraged by the signals from our sisters and brothers on the other side of the table that it is a moment for change; it is a moment for a holistic approach; and it is a moment for democratic transformation, social justice, and the respect of human rights including the right of equal citizenship. We believe the two parties can make this moment a reality by addressing the humanitarian tragedy taking place in the Two Areas, and thereby providing a model to be applied as well in Darfur and Northern Kordofan.
Without putting an end to the humanitarian crisis caused by the denial of access for the delivery of humanitarian aid to the populations in desperate need; and without stopping the aerial and ground bombardment of innocent civilians while also refusing to release prisoners of war and political detainees, the seriousness of these talks and the usefulness of this great AUHIP forum will be questioned by the Sudanese people, and in particular those who are in the war zones. The right for humanitarian assistance should not be conditioned politically and at the same time we are ever-ready to resolve political issues as well. Resolving the humanitarian crisis shall create a conducive atmosphere to resolve the political and security issues.
As the SPLM-N has stated repeatedly, it is high time to implement the Addis Ababa Framework Agreement of 28 June 2011, which will lead to a national constitutional process and a transitional government that carries the support of the massive majority of political parties and civil societies in the opposition and in the government and that is required by the AU resolutions and the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2046.
Stopping the war from Blue Nile to Nuba Mountains to Northern Kordofan and Darfur and then addressing the root causes of war in a national constitutional conference are the only answers to Sudan’s political and economic crises. As we are speaking today, more than 70% of the national budget is being used by the government to conduct a war against its own citizens, which has resulted in crippling repercussions and war crimes. Sudan can only re-build a healthy national, regional and international relations by ending these wars and fully accepting democratic transformation.
We truly believe that the continuation of wars in the marginalized areas of Sudan will hurt the future of the unity of Sudan as it did before in the case of South Sudan. Therefore, we call upon the Sudan government to accept one forum to end the war with the Sudan Revolutionary Front; and we believe that President Thabo Mbeki, the AUHIP and Mohamed Ibn Chambas, Joint AU-UN Special Representative for Darfur, Head of UNAMID and Joint Chief Mediator, can work as one team to facilitate this new forum with the support of the African and international communities.
The SPLM-N came to Addis Ababa with an open heart and mind and with the necessary political will to amicably resolve once and for all, with our brothers and sisters from the Sudan government, the serious issues that prevent our country from becoming, once again, a truly great nation. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif
Yasir Arman On behalf of the SPLM-N Delegation to the Addis Ababa Peace Talks 13 February 2014 |
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Re: عاااااااااااجل مطالب الحركة الشعبية قطاع الشمال في مفاوضات السلام الدايرة حالياً (Re: إحسان عبد العزيز)
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Quote: الحوار مع الحركة الشعبية شمال يجب ان ينحصر فى مشكلة النيل الأزرق وجنوب كردفان فقط ... أما إذا أرادوا التحاور فى مشاكل السودان عامة فهناك مؤتمر الحوار الوطني الذي يتم الأعداد له فى الخرطوم الان ... والذي ستشارك فيه كل القوي السياسية....
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امير عثمان من الذى قال ذلك ومن الذى يحدد ذلك ؟ الحركة االشعبية جسم سياسى سودانى كما قال الاخ نصر ولديه عضوية فى اركان السودان الاربعة ومن حقه ان يتحدث فى كل قضايا الشعب السودانى ! انا شخصيا كمواطن سودانى من اقصى شمال السودان افضل ان يتحاور الحركة الشعبية فى قضايا منطقتى واقليمى بدلا من احزاب الامة والاتحادى والشيوعى وامثالى كثر ! الحركة الشعبية هى الجسم السياسى والعسكرى الوحيد الذى تحدث عن الحاجات المسكوتة فى قاموس السياسة والحقوق والمطالب فى السودان واظهرها على السطح ! متى كانت الناس تتحدث عن التعدد الاثنى والثقافى واللغوى فى السياسة السودانية بالطريقة وبالقوة التى تحدث بها الحركة الشعبية؟ متى كانت الناس تتحدث عن تفكيك المركز الظالم وتوزيع الثروة والسلطة وعن العدل والمساواة بين مكونات المجتمع السودانى بصرف النظر عن الهوية واللغة والدين بالطريقة التى تحدث بها الحركة الشعبية ؟ الحركة االشعبية بطرحها وبرنامجها عبرت عن فئات عريضة من المجتمع السودانى وهى الفئة المظلومة والمهضومة حقوقها فى السودان ! نعم للحركة الشعبية ونعم للجبهة الثورية ونعم للسودان الجديد !
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