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 Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس (Re: محمد عثمان الحاج)
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وثيقة تتضمن تصريحات مدهشة أدلى بها موسى هلال للقائم بالأعمال الأمريكي في مأدبة إفطار رمضاني كان الداعي إليه دكتور مادبو السوداني الأمريكي وحضره عدد من زعماء بطون الرزيقات، وانفرد هلال بالقائم بالأعمال في غرفة جانبية ليبرئ نفسه ويضع اللوم في مارتكب من جرائم على الأصوليين الإسلاميين ويقول أن ينتمي للصوفية وأن ولاء عائلته التقليدي للحزب الاتحادي الديمقراطي! ياللعجب!
http://wikileaks.org/origin/124_41.html
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 KHARTOUM 001450
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DEPARTMENT FOR AF A/S FRAZER, AF/SPG, SE WILLIAMSON, AF/C,
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/23/2018
TAGS: PGOV PHUM PREL AU UN SU
SUBJECT: IFTAR WITH THE "JANJAWEED"
REF: A. KHARTOUM 1391
¶B. KHARTOUM 1343
¶C. KHARTOUM 1108
¶D. KHARTOUM 1009
¶E. KHARTOUM 463
¶F. KHARTOUM 267
¶G. KHARTOUM 80
Classified By: CDA Alberto M. Fernandez, for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
¶1. (C) Summary: In a surprise meeting, notorious janjaweed
leader Musa Hilal told CDA that he was duped by Khartoum in
his actions during the worst years of 2003-2005 in Darfur, he
regrets his past, and has apologized in several tribal venues
to Darfur's African tribes. He blamed Darfur's "excesses" on
the NCP's Islamists and suggested President Al-Bashir should
break with them and rule as military dictator. He claimed a
close relation with Chadian President Deby and asked how he
can advance the American agenda in Darfur. End summary.
A MYSTERY GUEST
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¶2. (C) On September 23, CDA Fernandez and poloff attended the
Ramadan Iftar held by Darfuri-American activist and prominent
Arab tribal leader Dr. Walid Madibo (also attending was the
Qatari Charge). Madibo, a USAID implementing partner, is a
leader of the Baggara (cattle-herding) or Southern Rizeigat,
one of Darfur's most numerous and powerful Arab tribes but
also the most notable Arab tribe to sit out the bitter ethnic
fighting of the past five years in Darfur (the Southern
Rizeigat were deeply involved in the war between Khartoum and
South Sudan though, and were notorious raiders of Southern
cattle and people before that war ended) and resisted the
temptation to serve as tribal shock troops for the Khartoum
regime.
¶3. (C) As the time for breaking the fast and prayer
approached, the Southern Rizeigat were joined by a strong
representation from their camel-herding, Northern cousins -
the Abbala Rizeigat and tribal leaders of the Ireiqat,
Etafat, Mahariyya, Awlad Rashid and Mahamid tribes. Among the
dignitaries was Sheikh Hammad Gibriel of the Ireiqat, and the
paramount sheikh of the Mahariyya, Mohamadeen Al-Doud. But
chief among them was Musa Hilal, hereditary sheikh of the
Mahamid, and the most infamous of all Janjaweed warlords.
Although Hilal, was one of the younger tribal leaders
present, he stood out by his height and by the deference he
received from many of the elder sheikhs. Hilal was appointed
an Advisor to the Ministry of Federal Rule in January 2008, a
move widely criticized in the West but one seemingly intended
to keep him on a short leash after he flirted with joining
the SPLM in Juba in late 2007 during the SPLM "cabinet
crisis".
¶4. (C) After prayer and eating, Madibo gave a short
presentation on the work of his NGO which tries to promote
reconciliation between various tribes in Darfur, using
traditional mediation methods. He made a strong case that all
Darfuris are "Africans" of mixed Arab and African origin and
that they need to overcome together the grim history of the
past and renew the traditionally tolerant social fabric of
Darfur as it existed over centuries. He noted that Darfur's
Arab tribes have to do a better job explaining themselves and
their concerns to the world, especially the West. He formally
invited the Amir of Qatar to visit the Arab tribes of Darfur
and hear their complaints and see their marginalization.
RELUCTANT KILLERS
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¶5. (C) Hilal then met one on one with CDA in a side-room.
This is the third meeting between Hilal and USG officials. In
2004, he met with CDA Galluci at the height of the violence.
In late 2006, he met with Special Envoy Natsios in Nyala.
Hilal began by recalling those meetings and recounting the
details of his infamous career. He said that the U.S. had a
superficial and inaccurate understanding of those worst years
(2003-2005) of Darfur bloodletting. The Arab tribes were
manipulated by a hysterical Khartoum afraid that SPLM leader
John Garang was seeking to open a new front just as
negotiations reached their final stage on the CPA. "I was let
out of prison (Hilal had been arrested for manslaughter) and
was angry at the world. My tribe had been attacked. Khartoum
armed me and pushed tribal vengeance into something worse."
He noted that the region was, and is, awash in weapons,
supplied by Libya in the years of its many Chadian
interventions. "We don't feel we had a choice as our tribal
enemies were with the rebels." The Arab tribes couldn't
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disarm unilaterally in the face of heavily armed rebel groups
aching for revenge.
¶6. (C) Hilal said he regretted much about those years and has
apologized to Fur and other leaders for his actions and those
of the Mahamid. "Someone said that President Bush wanted the
######### of two people: Bin Ladin and Musa Hilal." But I am not
as you think I am, "the political leader I am closest to and
admire is President Deby of Chad." We have family ties going
back to our grandfathers. He snorted appreciatively when CDA
described the NCP earlier as experts in "deception, delay and
false promises," commenting that "you know them well then."
BLAME IT ON THE ISLAMISTS
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¶7. (C) Sheikh Hilal blamed Khartoum's Islamists for Darfur's
carnage. "I am not a member of the NCP, my family has always
been Unionists (DUP members). We are Sufis and not
fundamentalists." He said that President Bashir had been led
astray by the likes of Islamic fundamentalists (VP) Ali Osman
Taha and party leader Nafie Ali Nafie. Hilal would like to
see Bashir arrest the NCPers, hold them responsible for their
crimes and rule Sudan with the help of the Northern
opposition parties (Umma and DUP) and the SPLM. He noted
that whatever government rules in Khartoum, "I will remain
what I am, sheikh of my tribe, a free man."
¶8. (C) He sarcastically noted his ostensible role as a
ministerial advisor, "we advise them on nothing. We have no
power, everything, every killing is decided in Khartoum. You
call us 'janjaweed' but that is not a word we use, those are
bandits, thieves and robbers." He complained that the Arab
tribes have not been consulted about a constellation of
recent Darfur initiatives in the news, "the Qatari, Arab
League and Sudan People's (this is Bashir's initiative), we
don't know them or any details about them." Warming up to the
topic, Hilal described Darfur's Arab militias as "disloyal to
Khartoum. We found out that we have more in common with the
Africans of Darfur than with these Nile Valley Arabs." Hilal
added that the Arab tribes of Darfur were constantly told by
Khartoum officials that the Americans were "out to get them."
There is a rumor that you are taking Zaghawa tribesmen for
training in Afghanistan (the fierce Zaghawa make up the bulk
of Darfur's rebels and are bitter enemies of the camel
herding Arabs) but we know that is not true. "If we had a
choice, we would be with America against the NCP."
PART OF AMERICA'S PLAN FOR DARFUR
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¶9. (C) Despite the ferocity of the Zaghawa's reputation,
Hilal dismissed the power of the various Zaghawa-dominated
rebel groups. JEM is strong only because of lavish Chadian
support and the heavy use of Chadian mercenaries. JEM leader
Khalil Ibrahim recruits lesser tribes along the border as
cannon fodder, "there aren't that many Zaghawa that are still
fighters" as the upwardly mobile tribe moves to the cities to
become successful traders and businessmen. Hilal
characterized the Fur people of Darfur, often seen as the
conflict's (and Hilal's) greatest victims, as much more
formidable. "They are smarter and fight better, but they lack
the weapons, vehicles and preparation." He added that "the
Fur should lead" in Darfur - a far cry from the days of Arab
supremacy in Darfur - as they are "wiser, better educated and
moderate".
¶10. (C) Hilal asked for understanding: "we want a place in
the American agenda for Darfur." We want to see your policy
goals succeed there. He said that he wanted to find "whatever
way I can to be helpful to the Americans." Hilal added that
he wanted nothing for himself except the opportunity to
travel freely (evidently Hilal feels that he may well be
arrested if he travels too far afield). Hilal added that "we
don't understand what is your goal in Darfur, we want to
understand and be helpful." He repeatedly emphasized that
the loyalty of Darfur's Arab tribes , and presumably his own,
is up for grabs, if the West is interested.
¶11. (C) Comment: Like a large tawny cat, Hilal is a
compelling and surprisingly articulate figure (in Arabic) who
seems eager to break with Khartoum and find some sort of
accommodation from the West for himself and his band of
rogues. He longs for contact and recognition and was not shy
about his contempt for the Islamist politicians in Khartoum
(he was silent, however, about his likely paymasters in the
Sudanese military/security apparatus). He does feel, and is
probably right, that tribesmen like himself are in danger of
being made scapegoats at war crimes tribunals for policy
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decisions made in the capital. Although Hilal was only one of
many ruthless Arab militia field commanders in Darfur, his
media exposure during the worse years of the genocide will
always make him a marked man. He is smart and aware enough to
know that and to look for a way out without comprehending
that none is likely to exist for him. If anything, this
meeting also underscores the shallow, mercurial nature of
Khartoum's relationship with their most trusted allies in the
field in Darfur. End comment.
FERNANDEZ
(عدل بواسطة محمد عثمان الحاج on 09-05-2011, 09:22 PM)
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 مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 08:03 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 08:04 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 08:09 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 08:20 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 08:25 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-03-11, 10:10 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 10:44 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-03-11, 11:05 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-03-11, 11:05 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | SAIF MUstafa | 09-04-11, 00:04 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-04-11, 00:25 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | motaz ali | 09-04-11, 03:11 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 04:24 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 08:26 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | أحمد أمين | 09-04-11, 12:06 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | أحمد أمين | 09-04-11, 12:12 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 06:21 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 06:40 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 06:48 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-04-11, 07:48 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 05:28 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 06:00 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | قلقو | 09-05-11, 06:56 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | أحمد أمين | 09-05-11, 11:17 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 03:44 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | بريمة محمد | 09-05-11, 07:24 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 08:41 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 08:54 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 09:08 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 09:20 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 09:42 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 09:56 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Abobakr Shadad | 09-05-11, 10:49 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 11:31 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-05-11, 11:45 PM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-06-11, 00:20 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | محمد عثمان الحاج | 09-06-11, 00:38 AM |
| Re: مراسلات السفارة الامريكية فى الخرطوم دون تنقيح فى وثائق ويكيليكس | Kostawi | 09-14-11, 09:15 PM |
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