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Quote: ZEINAB BADAWI - You've been asked by the United Nations to disarm the janjaweed. Are you going to do that? ALI OSMAN TAHA - We are really committed to disarm whoever is acting outside the law, be it the janjaweed, which is a local term which means the tribal outlaws and irrespective of their background, the government is determined and decided to disarm whoever acts or behaves outside of the law and make the life of people there in trouble. ZB - Are you giving us a commitment now that you are prepared to completely disarm the janjaweed? AOT - We are really committed to disarm all militias that are acting outside the law. Janjaweed, tarabora (PHON) or whatever name they have. ZB - The janjaweed though in particular, who it is claimed, you have supported - are you going to be disarming them completely? And if so, within what time frame? AOT - Janjaweed and other militias will be disarmed. This is a plan that the government has already embarked into and it will take the time that is necessary for us to deploy and put up logistics and manpower that's needed. ZB- What is the time necessary? You've been given until the end of this month to demonstrate your total commitment to doing so. How much time do you think you'll need exactly? AOT - We have already deployed 6000 police troops and we are planning to put the number up to 12000 men.. ZB - When? AOT - Maybe over the coming weeks but definitely not within the time limit of this August ZB - So you can't meet the deadline which the United Nations has given you to demonstrate your ability to disarm the militias, the janjaweed completely. You can't meet that time frame. Is that what you are saying? AOT - We are doing our best to meet that deadline but definitely, due to logistical problems and limitations we have at the moment, I don't think the time frame is practical. Disarming the janjaweed ZB - Are you not going to try to disarm the janjaweed until the rebels start disarming? AOT - I think, to have a real, stable situation in Darfur, it has to be done on both sides. ZB - Is that what you're saying then, that your government will not disarm the militias until the rebels start doing the same? AOT - The government has already started disarming the janjaweed and other militias but we say clearly that we cannot begin to have comprehensive stability without having disarmed both sides. His reaction to various human rights reports AOT - These reports, attributed to the UN, African Union...they are not correct. ZB - Well, I mean, the African Union - we spoke to them personally before this. They said your government could be doing much more, the reports are in the public domain, there are eye witness accounts.. AOT - But they are not saying these reports are true. They may say the government of Sudan can do more but this doesn't mean.. ZB - No, they are talking about atrocities perpetrated by the janjaweed against innocent civilians, elderly men, women, children, innocent people. I have to give you some examples. Have you heard about Human Rights Watch saying 65 mosques burnt in Dar Masalit with scores killed in mosques, one elderly Imam near Habila killed as he rushed home from the mosque to save his 3 year old orphaned grandson. Both of them were killed by the janjaweed. AOT - These reports are reports of war and everywhere there is war, there could be atrocities. I'm not defending that these atrocities .. ZB - You're changing your story now. First you were saying they weren't true and now you are saying they might have happened.. AOT - No. No. I'm saying that the degree..the numbers..the figures are not correct. But I'm saying that in the case of war, there would be atrocities, there would be violations of human rights. There's no doubt about it, but what we are supposed to do is to have a serious and genuine commitment to support the government of Sudan to perform. ZB - So you admit these atrocities have gone on, the kind of atrocities I just described to you.. AOT - I don't admit that...in particular, there are no evidence. We stand to call on international communities to set up commissions to verify and investigate these allegations.