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Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists (Re: Elawad)
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أعود للتعقيب على بعض النقاط و أقول لك يا زكريا يا عزيزي إن مجرد المطالبة بعلمانية الدولة فيه مطالبة للمسلمين بألا يتحاكموا إلى تعاليم دينهم. لأنه زي ما قلت فوق إذا كانت طبيعة دينك يا كمسيحي أن ما لله لله و ما لقيصر لقيصر و أن الكنيسة في بعض عهود التاريخ حكمت الناس باسم الله فهذه تجربة مختلفة عن تجربة المسلمين. المسلم مثلا يحدد له القرآن أحكام الميراث لو حاولت تطبيق قانون علماني عليه يفرض توزيع معين للمواريث بتكون حرمته من حقه في الاحتكام إلى دينه. طيب أنت تحتج على الانتهاكات التي حدثت في ظل تطبيق نظام الدولة بنظامين و هذه الانتهاكات ببساطة تأتي لعدم الاتزام بالاتفاقيات الموقعة لذلك لا يمكن تحميل هذه الاتفاقيات المسئولية عنها. تعلم يا زكريا أن المشكلة الحقيقية في النظام القائم الآن و أنا عندما أتحدث عن حق المسلمين في التحاكم إلى قوانين دينهم أتحدث عن تجربة جديدة يمكن للعقلاء من المسلمين و غيرهم أن يجلسوا و يتناقشوا كيف يحفظوا حقوق الطرفين في ظلها... حق المسلمين في أن يطبقوا أحكام دينهم و حق غيرهم في أن يكونوا مواطنين لهم كامل حقوق المواطنة.
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Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 10:39 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 11:14 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 11:22 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 04:23 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Deng | 09-24-10, 11:18 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 11:29 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 11:35 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Zakaria Joseph | 09-24-10, 03:04 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-24-10, 03:58 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Zakaria Joseph | 09-24-10, 04:35 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-24-10, 04:39 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | jini | 09-24-10, 04:47 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-24-10, 05:10 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-24-10, 05:22 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-24-10, 05:24 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-24-10, 06:02 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Zakaria Joseph | 09-24-10, 06:28 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 10:08 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | صديق الموج | 09-24-10, 06:20 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Kostawi | 09-24-10, 06:23 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-24-10, 06:33 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Abdalla aidros | 09-24-10, 07:59 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 08:50 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 09:08 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-24-10, 10:23 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 09:29 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-24-10, 09:39 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Kostawi | 09-24-10, 10:52 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-25-10, 02:35 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-25-10, 02:37 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-25-10, 02:44 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-25-10, 03:34 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-25-10, 07:29 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Abdalla aidros | 09-25-10, 07:57 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 09-25-10, 03:25 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-25-10, 04:58 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Mohamed Elgadi | 09-26-10, 00:32 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | MAHJOOP ALI | 09-26-10, 01:21 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-26-10, 01:37 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-26-10, 01:39 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Zakaria Joseph | 09-27-10, 03:43 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-27-10, 05:55 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-28-10, 03:08 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 09-28-10, 05:01 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Sabri Elshareef | 09-28-10, 05:32 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 09-28-10, 05:47 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 09-28-10, 05:54 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-28-10, 06:09 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-28-10, 06:37 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-28-10, 05:17 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-29-10, 06:37 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-29-10, 06:38 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-29-10, 05:16 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-29-10, 05:27 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | bakri abdalla | 09-29-10, 08:23 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 09-29-10, 08:47 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-29-10, 09:32 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 09-30-10, 02:16 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-30-10, 02:55 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 09-30-10, 06:29 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 03:06 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Sabri Elshareef | 10-29-10, 02:56 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 02:18 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 10-01-10, 02:49 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 03:24 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | معاوية عبيد الصائم | 10-01-10, 02:50 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | كمال عباس | 10-01-10, 04:10 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 10-01-10, 04:39 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 06:33 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 06:39 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-01-10, 04:43 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 10-01-10, 05:33 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Abdel Aati | 10-01-10, 09:46 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 10-06-10, 04:08 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-06-10, 05:47 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | ثروت سوار الدهب | 10-21-10, 05:49 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-21-10, 09:39 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Elawad | 10-21-10, 05:16 PM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | doma | 10-22-10, 04:48 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | فاروق عثمان | 10-24-10, 03:40 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | فاروق عثمان | 10-25-10, 03:00 AM |
Re: Zakaria Joseph ,elawad and All Northern Secularists | Sabri Elshareef | 10-29-10, 03:01 AM |
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