وزير العدل الهولندي: الشريعة الإسلامية يمكن أن تطبق في هولندا إذا كانت خيار الأغلبية

Quote: Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It THE HAGUE, 13/09/06 - Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner considers the Netherlands should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions. Muslims refusing to shake hands is fine with him. And Sharia law could be introduced in the Netherlands democratically, in the minister's view. Muslims have the right to experience their religion in ways that diverge from Dutch social codes, accordign to the Christian democrat (CDA) minister. He thinks Queen Beatrix was very wise not to insist on a Muslim leader shaking hands with her when she visited his mosque in The Hague earlier this year. Integration Minister Verdonk did previously scold an imam who would not shake her hand. Without directly referring to this incident, Donner considers "a tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate. A tone of: 'Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way'. That is not my approach". Donner strongly disagrees with a recent plea by CDA parliamentary leader Maxime Verhagen for a ban on parties seeking to launch Sharia (Islamic law) in the Netherlands. "For me it is clear: if two-thirds of the Dutch population should want to introduce the Sharia tomorrow, then the possibility should exist," according to Donner. "It would be a disgrace to say: 'That is not allowed!'." Donner makes his remarks in an interview in a book entitled, 'The country of hate and anger' (Het land van haat en nijd). The book was written by journalists Margalith Kleijwegt and Max van Weezel of weekly magazine Vrij Nederland. Minister Verdonk will be presented with the first copy today.

Quote: Official OK with Islamic law in Netherlands Dutch justice minister says Sharia fine if people vote for it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: September 13, 2006 12:30 p.m. Eastern © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Piet Hein Donner The Netherlands' justice minister says he would welcome Islamic law, or Sharia, to his European nation if the majority of his people vote for it. Piet Hein Donner wants the Netherlands to give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions, reported the NIS News Bulletin, a Dutch online publication. "For me it is clear: If two-thirds of the Dutch population should want to introduce the Sharia tomorrow, then the possibility should exist," Donner said. "It would be a disgrace to say: 'That is not allowed!'" Donner was reacting to a plea by a parliamentary leader, Maxime Verhagen, who wants to ban parties seeking to establish Islamic law.

Quote: إن الشريعة الإسلامية يمكن أن تطبق في هولندا إذا ما اقتنع ثلاثة أرباع الهولنديين بضرورة ذلك في وقت ما في المستقبل؛ لأن الديموقراطية تقتضي الالتزام بخيار الأغلبية.

Quote: World News See other World News Articles Title: Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It Source: nisnews URL Source: http://www.nisnews.nl/public/130906_2.htm Published: Sep 13, 2006 Author: nisnews Post Date: 2006-09-13 08:22:26 by rustynail 3 Comments THE HAGUE, 13/09/06 - Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner considers the Netherlands should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions. Muslims refusing to shake hands is fine with him. And Sharia law could be introduced in the Netherlands democratically, in the minister's view. Muslims have the right to experience their religion in ways that diverge from Dutch social codes, accordign to the Christian democrat (CDA) minister. He thinks Queen Beatrix was very wise not to insist on a Muslim leader shaking hands with her when she visited his mosque in The Hague earlier this year. Integration Minister Verdonk did previously scold an imam who would not shake her hand. Without directly referring to this incident, Donner considers "a tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate. A tone of: 'Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way'. That is not my approach". Donner strongly disagrees with a recent plea by CDA parliamentary leader Maxime Verhagen for a ban on parties seeking to launch Sharia (Islamic law) in the Netherlands. "For me it is clear: if two-thirds of the Dutch population should want to introduce the Sharia tomorrow, then the possibility should exist," according to Donner. "It would be a disgrace to say: 'That is not allowed!'." Donner makes his remarks in an interview in a book entitled, 'The country of hate and anger' (Het land van haat en nijd). The book was written by journalists Margalith Kleijwegt and Max van Weezel of weekly magazine Vrij Nederland. Minister Verdonk will be presented with the first copy today.

Quote: ويعتبر الوزير "دونر" من صفوة الحقوقيين الهولنديين، وينتمي لمدرسة عريقة من أرستقراطية البروتستانت الهولنديين، وهو من الساسة المقتدرين في الحزب المسيحي الديموقراطي الحاكم.

Quote: وطالبت السيدة "فرهاخن" بأن يسمح النظام الديموقراطي الهولندي بحظر أي حزب ينادي بتطبيق الشريعة الإسلامية في هولندا. ويصف "دونر" مثل هذه التوجهات في كتابه بـ "الفضيحة" ويرفضها تماما.

Quote: إن الشريعة الإسلامية يمكن أن تطبق في هولندا إذا ما اقتنع ثلاثة أرباع الهولنديين بضرورة ذلك في وقت ما في المستقبل؛ لأن الديموقراطية تقتضي الالتزام بخيار الأغلبية.

Quote: Dutch minister sparks row with Sharia remarks Wed Sep 13, 2006 01:58 PM ET AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Comments by the Dutch justice minister that Sharia law could be introduced if two-thirds of the population supported it have unleashed a political storm in the Netherlands, where immigration is a hotly debated issue. Anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders has called for an emergency parliamentary debate on Thursday morning to discuss the remarks made by Piet Hein Donner in a book published on Wednesday, a government spokesman said. Donner distanced himself from the row late on Wednesday, telling Dutch news agency ANP: "People are trying to put the words in my mouth, saying I am in favor of introducing Sharia law but that is not the case." The minister said that Sharia law ran counter to the Dutch constitution, although in theory the constitution could be amended if a majority of the Dutch population wanted the Islamic law introduced. The scale of the reaction to his remarks, made in the book "Land of Hate and Envy" about changes in the Netherlands over the last 15 years, astonished him, he said. The densely populated Netherlands has about 1 million Muslims among its population of 16 million. But a government study said last week that Muslims would make up 8 percent of the Dutch population by 2020 from about 6 percent now. However, the study noted that the rise in the growth of the Muslim population, which accelerated in the last few decades due to mass immigration from Turkey and Morocco, would likely slow in the future. Immigration, particularly of Muslims, has been a hot topic in the Netherlands since the murder of popular anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn in 2002. Concern about the radicalization of the Muslim minority was further stoked two years later when a Dutch Muslim murdered a filmmaker critical of Islam. Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, who has pushed through tough new policies such as Dutch language and culture tests for new immigrants, agreed Donner's remarks were theoretical. "Our democracy is much more than the might of the majority. People fought for years for fundamental values. These jar with Sharia. I trust in the fact that we will stick by fundamental values such as the equality of man and woman in our democracy," she said. © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.

Quote: خاصة بعدما شددت السيدة "ماكسيما فرهاخن"، زعيمة الكتلة البرلمانية للحزب، في حديث لها مؤخرا على ضرورة عدم السماح بتقنين أية أحكام إسلامية شرعية ديموقراطيا. وطالبت السيدة "فرهاخن" بأن يسمح النظام الديموقراطي الهولندي بحظر أي حزب ينادي بتطبيق الشريعة الإسلامية في هولندا.

(عدل بواسطة Frankly on 09-19-2006, 10:54 AM)

Quote: ما في خلاف أنو النظام الديموقراطي يتقبل أي مشروع قانون حتي ولو كان هندوسي إذا حاز الأغلبية...

Quote: فإذا طالب ثلثي المواطنين بتطبيق الشريعة الإسلامية فهذا يعني أن إيمان هؤلاء الثلثين جعلهم يطالبون بذلك

Quote: القضية ليست فرض الشريعة الإسلامية على غير مسلمين كما يحب البعض أن يتصور الأمر بل القضية في مجملها قضية مبدأ الديموقراطية وتلبية رغبات وخيارات الأغلبية

Quote: الإعلان مقصود منه مدي مرونة الدستور بحيث لا يمانع تمريرأي مشروع قانون مهما كان مصدره عبر البرلمان إذا بلغ ثلثي النصاب مالم يتعارض مع مقاصده العلمانية وقد تم من قبل كذلك إجازة قانون زواج المثلية وقانون الموت الرحيم بنفس الطريقة!

(عدل بواسطة kamalabas on 09-19-2006, 08:56 PM)

Quote: ترى هفل تلتزم الأحزاب اليسارية في السودان والعالم الإسلامي بهذا المبدأ الديموقراطي؟

Quote: فهمت؟

Quote: فهمت؟

Quote: Donner was reacting to a plea by a parliamentary leader, Maxime Verhagen, who wants to ban parties seeking to establish Islamic law.