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05-13-2006, 03:33 AM

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    Quote: AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PEOPLE OF DARFUR


    “The Darfur Peace Agreement”

    What it Means for the People of Darfur



    Peace for Darfur

    The people of Darfur have suffered more than three years of terrible war, massacre, hunger and displacement at the hands of the Government of Sudan and others. The Darfur Peace Agreement is the first step for peace. We know that many more steps are needed.

    The Darfur Peace Agreement was signed in Nigeria on 5 May. It is the work of the African Union together with the United States of America, Great Britain, Canada, the European Union, the United Nations, and other countries. All these foreign governments and organizations agreed every part of it. Everybody in the international community supports it. It will allow Darfurians to return home in safety, to go about their daily lives again without fear for their families and loved ones, and to begin to see the end of their political and economic marginalization.

    Now that the Government has signed the Darfur Peace Agreement, the United Nations is able to consider sending soldiers to Darfur to protect the people. The Government of Sudan is even now talking to the United Nations and the United States about bringing a UN protection force in to Darfur.

    The Darfur Peace Agreement is 140 pages long and took teams of experts five months to negotiate. This is a short summary of the main points in the Agreement and an explanation of what it means for the people of Darfur.

    The Agreement has four main sections as well as a timetable for the different activities - most importantly, the total disarmament of the Janjaweed. The African Union, the Movements and international security experts will monitor this disarmament.

    Sharing Power

    Section one deals with how the Movements will share power with the National Congress Party, and how Darfurians will have their fair share of power in Sudan as a whole.

    The main points are:

    • The Movements can choose one of their leaders who will become the fourth most senior man in the Presidency. His title is “Senior Assistant to the President” and the President has to involve him in every decision for Darfur.

    • A new government body is set up, the “Transitional Darfur Regional Authority.” Its job is to do all the work to make the Peace Agreement real, including helping people return to their homes, providing money for rebuilding, providing compensation, sorting out land ownership, and organizing security. It will be headed by a nominee of the Movements. All the commissions - resettlement, compensation, land etc - will be headed by respected Darfurians nominated by the Movements.

    • The Movements will get one Governor and some other government posts in Darfur as well as one Cabinet Minister and 12 seats in the National Assembly. The Movements did not, and cannot, win the war. The government cannot be forced to give away its majority before elections.

    • Elections will be held in three years so the people of Darfur can choose their own government. A year later the people of Darfur can choose whether to have one Darfur Region or the three states of North Darfur, South Darfur and West Darfur.

    • Darfurians will not have to pay any education fees for five years. They will get preferential treatment in civil service jobs.

    Rebuilding Darfur

    Section two deals with making sure that Darfur gets its fair share of Sudan’s wealth and making sure there is enough money for compensation, relief and reconstruction.

    • Every person who suffered during the conflict will be able to claim compensation from a special fund. Someone chosen by the Movements will run this fund. The government has agreed to compensate the victims. Not just for their own lives and their children’s lives, but also for their animals, their possessions, their homes, their health and much besides. It has already paid a first installment of $30 million into the fund. More will follow soon. The compensation process is simple and quick. There is even provision for interim compensation payments without a full hearing.

    • A special assistance programme will be set up to help every displaced person return home and rebuild their lives in areas where international troops have ensured they will be safe. There will be packages to help people begin to farm again, to keep animals, and to rebuild their houses. There will be assistance to dig wells and provide schools and clinics. Someone chosen by the Movements will run this programme.

    • The Government and international donors have promised the biggest-ever programme of rebuilding, which is guaranteed for ten years.

    • A special group will study who owns which land in Darfur and sort out disputes. Hawakeer will be the basis for the settlement of land disputes.

    • Masars will be demilitarized and protected. Nomads will be able to move freely with their animals once again.

    Security

    Section three is about security. It aims to stop the fighting immediately and make it possible for people to be safe, so that we can move on to control and disarm the militias, build up a police force that the people trust, and make sure that the rebel fighters are either incorporated into the army or disarmed and helped to build new lives for themselves.

    • The most important issue is to stop the fighting. This is not easy. For almost three years the Government and Movements have promised a ceasefire and it has never happened. Because of this, the new Agreement is much tougher. Every army unit, militia or Movement force must confine itself to a particular place and will not be allowed to move. The African Union troops will monitor this closely, supported by international observers. After another six weeks, each military unit has to withdraw to a smaller area, and after another six weeks, to put its heavy guns in a special place where they can be monitored.

    • The Government has to control every single militia by restricting it to its own base or its own home community. Attacks are strictly forbidden and will not be permitted.

    • IDP camps and the areas around them will become “Demilitarized Zones” where no soldiers or militia are allowed.

    • In IDP camps, the people themselves will choose their policemen from the community. Later on, these “community police” will become part of the ordinary police.

    • The Janjaweed will be disarmed in stages. First they will not be allowed to roam about. Especially, they must be stopped in any area where there are civilians including people returning home from IDP camps. Then they must give up their heavy guns. Lastly they will be disarmed.

    • 4,000 fighters from the Movements will join the national army, with senior command posts from the very first day.

    • The PDF will be restricted to their bases and then reduced in size. The police force will be reformed so that policemen are trusted by everyone and can perform their job effectively.

    • The leaders of all communities will meet together to decide how they should control their village defence groups. Over time, when peace and stability is restored, everyone will hand over his gun.

    Now that the Peace Agreement is signed, the African Union is asking for more troops - including an airborne unit - and more equipment.

    Darfur-Darfur Dialogue and Reconciliation

    Part four of the Agreement is the Darfur-Darfur Dialogue and Reconciliation. This is a conference in which tribal and community leaders, women and youth, and all possible groups from every part of Darfur can meet together to resolve their problems. They will set up a “Peace and Reconciliation Council” so that problems between tribes can be solved quickly.

    Guarantees

    Many people in Darfur are fearful that the Government will not honour the Agreement or that Darfur will return to war again.

    Not just the African Union but also every single western country and especially the United States of America back the Agreement. President Bush wrote to Abdel Wahid Nour and Minni Minawi giving them his personal assurance that he will do everything he can to make sure that the Agreement is properly honoured, and that Darfur returns to peace and security, that the land is rebuilt, and that democracy is achieved. International pressure has never been so great. It will not diminish.

    Any peace agreement is a compromise between people who have fought and killed one another. We realize that people in Darfur are still deeply afraid and worried about their future. We hope that the Darfur Peace Agreement is the first step towards rebuilding Darfur as a common home for all its people.

    Alex de Waal
    Consultant to the African Union Mediation


    © Copyright by SudaneseOnline.com

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    To Alex De Waal,
    I don’t think I can address you by my dear, nor do I find in the writers manuals, or in my humble vocabulary a title that can obfuscate (only for the sake of diplomacy) what I truly think of you.

    I assume it’s not a pleasant experience to see your impudent threats published on the web. So the CIA thug suddenly has turned to a compassionate philanthropist whose heart is reaching out to the people of Darfur. (What a transformation—I believe in miracles, too.)

    If Abdul Wahid signs your piece of garbage he will only be another loser and join a huge club in Sudan crowded by short-range leaders who led their people down, but Sudan will never be an easy place for the Anglo-Saxon to roost, or rule by a proxy.


    Let's read this quote from another article of yours
    Quote: Darfur's landscapes have a cruel beauty, and few are more unyielding than the nomadic encampment of Aamo. It is in a stony wasteland on a plain ringed by mountains formed from ancient volcanic cores. A distant sweep of pink sand marks the course of a seasonal river, Wadi Kutum. Many years ago, I stayed there as a guest of the nazir ('paramount chief') of a clan of Arab nomads known as the Jalul. With their broad black tents pitched on the sand, camels browsing on the thorn trees, and sparse but finely worked possessions, they were the stuff of coffee-table ethnography books.

    You obviously can write—so descriptively—and limn a landscape. I, too, read Lawrence Seven Pillars of Wisdom and was captivated by his pointillistic description of the Arabian desert; and I also could borrow his style—who cares nowadays.
    Your performance in Abuja and your writing about Sudan and Somalia make so evident a great imagination; when added to your immense erudition you can make one hell of a good fiction writer.

    Hashim Badr Eldin Mohamed
    I also fought in Sudan, you can go ahead and concoct charges of war crimes against me, too.

    (عدل بواسطة Hashim Badr Eldin on 05-13-2006, 03:44 AM)
    (عدل بواسطة Hashim Badr Eldin on 05-13-2006, 03:52 AM)
    (عدل بواسطة Hashim Badr Eldin on 05-13-2006, 03:59 AM)

                  

05-13-2006, 04:09 AM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    Salam

    Maybe I’m wrong ,but it feels like you don’t agree with having the UN troops coming to Sudan . I respect this view . The part I don’t understand ,is your anger and discomfort toward the author of the article . The man simply stated what the peace agreement is all about regardless to what degree is good or bad for us Sudanese . Maybe you see something I don’t see ,so please share it with me . I mean what should be done toward the situation in darfur you might as well have something wroth looking at . Regard ..
                  

05-13-2006, 05:37 AM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Muhib)

    Muhib
    Salamat
    Certainly there is something you missing, you may need to follow up on the other post. Only two days ago, in a private letter, he urged the movement leaders to accept defeat, though he knows they where not defeated, and they were forced into a cease-fire. But it could also be read as an open invitation to people to carry arms, because, in his opinion, military power is what counts. Brush all that aside, his insolent threats to Abdul Wahid are breathtaking.

    Quote: many thanks for your message, which I have read carefully and
    considered. As a statement of the grievances and just demands of Darfurian people it is superb. As a proposal for a solution to the problem at hand, in which an armed Movement has failed to win a war, has extremely weak political structures, and is divided among itself, is facing an undefeated and powerful government that is recognized by the international community and has won legitimacy for its CPA with the South, it does not work.


    Quote:
    The whole mediation has left Abuja save Sam Ibok, Boubou Niang and
    myself. President Obasanjo met with Abdel Wahid today and passed us a
    message, saying he doesnt want to speak to him again as he is just wasting time. The Americans say they won't speak to him unless he signs--or when he's in court. (Believe me they are 100% serious.) Sam and Boubou have also given up on the man. They leave Thursday morning with the signed copies of DPA to Addis Ababa.

    On 15th the Peace and Security Council will deposit the DPA with the AU and UN Security Council. In the 30 hours that are left for Abdel Wahid to sign, please encourage him to do the only responsible thing.

    The DPA isn't perfect. But it is one hell of a lot better than staying
    out in the cold. This chance will not come again. Never.

    Alex


    الأنجلوساكسون آلهتنا الجدد يهددون عبدالواحد بنقله إلى لاهاى اذا لم يوقع
                  

05-13-2006, 07:12 AM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    Hashim Baderldin
    Salam
    I am baffled as to why you are attacking Alex de Waal in this manner?
    Alex de Waal is an expert on Sudanese affairs
    he wrote numerous books and articles and essays in this regard
    he, also, wrote extensively about Drafur

    Because of his expertise on Sudan he was chosen to be a consultant to the African Union
    As such he helped in the negotiations and the drafting of Darfur Peace Agreement (DPA

    You accuse Alex de Waal of being an agent of the CIA
    do you have proof to this allegation?

    It is not clear from the excerpt by Alex you have quoted here, who is the person or persons or organisation to whom the letter was addressed
    can you shed some light on this matter

    As for the Darfur Peace Agreement, I find it a great step towards peace and stability and protection of the lives of million of people in the region
    The agreement also contained some very promising provisions which could put sudan and darfur in the right track, in terms of democratic transformation, and power sharing and wealth sharing by the people of darfur

    As for the threat to Abdelwahid Mohamed Nur, the leader of SLM/SLA who is yet to sign the peace agreemnet, I find it difficult to understand. We need to verify this piece attributed to Alex de Waal
                  

05-15-2006, 03:29 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Adil Osman)

    Dear Adil Osman
    Assalamu alaikum

    Alex De Waal is (until someone coins a better phrase) an SPLA and John Garang’s hater, and we are familiar with him and his activities.
    Leaving the word expert aside, him being a researcher who wrote extensively about Sudan, is a declarative fact and not news to me, I have read some of his work and I know he is not mother Teresa, and he doesn’t do it for the sake of Jesus Christ.

    When you say he was chosen as a consultant to the African union, it begs the question: who (in the African union or in heaven) made the choosing, and who set the criteria and gauged the knowledge and expertise pertinent to our miserable country, and who else was on the short list of the so-called experts. And if the African union can’t find, within the boundaries of their continent, experts with intimate knowledge about Sudan, why in hell are they peeping their noses in its business.
    Quote: As for the Darfur Peace Agreement, I find it a great step towards peace and stability and protection of the lives of million of people in the region
    The agreement also contained some very promising provisions which could put sudan and darfur in the right track, in terms of democratic transformation, and power sharing and wealth sharing by the people of darfur

    The same had been said about Alsharief Alhindi’s agreement and about Riech Machar’s agreement and about Naviasha and Jeddah and Cairo agreements, and the same will be said about all future agreements. Events of the last three days prove that people in the refugee camps don’t share your opinion.
    Quote: As for the threat to Abdelwahid Mohamed Nur, the leader of SLM/SLA who is yet to sign the peace agreemnet, I find it difficult to understand. We need to verify this piece attributed to Alex de Waal

    I don’t know if I should read this as an accusation with falsification, or self delusion on your behalf; here is the full letter and the man’s email address. Write him.
    [email protected]
    truly
    Hashim Badr Eldin
    Quote:

    many thanks for your message, which I have read carefully and
    considered. As a statement of the grievances and just demands of Darfurian people it is superb. As a proposal for a solution to the problem at hand, in which an armed Movement has failed to win a war, has extremely weak political structures, and is divided among itself, is facing an undefeated and powerful government that is recognized by the international community and has won legitimacy for its CPA with the South, it does not work.

    If you defeat your adversary on the battlefield you can dictate your
    terms. If you do not do so, no matter how deep the suffering of your
    people and how just and righteous your cause, you cannot do so. It is
    necessary to compromise.


    In my considered view, the provisions for security arrangements in the
    DPA are superb. I think there are few better. For the sake of the
    people in Darfur who are dying each day, I think that is reason enough to sign the DPA. Abdel Wahid himself has said that he finds no fault with the security arrangements. It includes disarming the Janjaweed,
    downsizing the PDF, integrating the Movements' forces into the army, etc.


    Those who reject those security arrangements should consider their
    responsibilities before the court of history very carefully indeed.

    The provisions for wealth-sharing are strong. Individual compensation
    is there. Reconstruction and development is there. It is true that not
    all the figures have been finalized. But the key to the resources is
    international commitment, and that is immense. It may not always be so.
    Remember the billions committed to Somalia, and the total disinterest in Somalia after the Somalis disagreed with the international solution to their problem.

    The provisions for power-sharing are a painful compromise. But it is
    important that you consider what is positive in the Agreement. Let me
    just point to two things. One is the TDRA, which is controlled
    overwhelmingly by the nominees of the Movements. Could the Mediation have proposed a region for Darfur with strong powers? Yes it could, but the price of that would have been that the NCP would have controlled 50% of it at minimum with the rest divided between the Movements and the independents.

    Surely, better to have a TDRA with specific powers and competencies
    (and a known budget already in excess of $600 million--compared to
    $10-12million for each state government) that you control, than a regional government you dont. Second, there are ELECTIONS. Democracy is coming. In his personal letter to Abdel Wahid, President Bush promised assistance to turn the SLM into a political party to compete in elections. When Bob Zoellick read out that letter, President Obasanjo said, "I want one too!" No other rebel leader or indeed civilian party leader has received such offers of support. If the Movements win the elections and the referendum on the status of Darfur, you will have EVERYTHING you want. That is in 3 and 4 years time.


    If this peace deal is rejected I strongly fear that in 3 or 4 years
    time you will still be writing your letters and appeals and justifiably
    pointing out the perfidy and deceit of the GoS and the international
    community over Darfur--by that time piled on with a few years of neglect as the world has washed its hands of this intractable problem (like Somalia).

    The whole mediation has left Abuja save Sam Ibok, Boubou Niang and
    myself. President Obasanjo met with Abdel Wahid today and passed us a
    message, saying he doesnt want to speak to him again as he is just wasting time. The Americans say they won't speak to him unless he signs--or when he's in court. (Believe me they are 100% serious.) Sam and Boubou have also given up on the man. They leave Thursday morning with the signed copies of DPA to Addis Ababa.

    On 15th the Peace and Security Council will deposit the DPA with the AU and UN Security Council. In the 30 hours that are left for Abdel Wahid to sign, please encourage him to do the only responsible thing.

    The DPA isn't perfect. But it is one hell of a lot better than staying
    out in the cold. This chance will not come again. Never.

    Alex



    (عدل بواسطة Hashim Badr Eldin on 05-15-2006, 05:04 PM)

                  

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    Quote: Truce Is Talk, Agony Is Real in Darfur War



    Fatouma Moussa, 18, was raped by janjaweed militiamen as she returned from selling firewood. They killed another woman, she said.


    An infant, Menazir Abdullah Adam, was shot in the foot by Darfur militiamen.


    Hanan Ahmed Hussein, 20, was shot in the leg last week by militiamen, despite a new cease-fire. Her daughter, Menazir, 1, was shot in the foot.

    By LYDIA POLGREEN
    Published: May 14, 2006
    MENAWASHEI, Sudan, May 12 — It took three months for Fatouma Moussa to collect enough firewood to justify a trip to sell it in the market town of Shangil Tobayi, half a day's drive by truck from here. It took just a few moments on Thursday for janjaweed militiamen, making a mockery of the new cease-fire, to steal the $40 she had earned on the trip and rape her.

    Speaking barely in a whisper, Ms. Moussa, who is 18, gave a spare account of her ordeal.

    "We found janjaweed at Amer Jadid," she said, naming a village just a few miles north of her own. "One woman was killed. I was raped."

    Officially, the cease-fire in the Darfur region went into effect last Monday.

    That was three days after the government and the largest rebel group signed a broad peace agreement, creating hope for an end to the brutal assaults that have left more than 200,000 dead and have driven two million from their homes, a campaign of government-sponsored terror against non-Arab tribes in Darfur that the Bush administration has called genocide.

    But the reality was on grim display in this crossroads town, where Ms. Moussa and other villagers were attacked Thursday as they rode home in an open-backed truck from Shangil Tobayi.

    The Arab militiamen who attacked them killed 1 woman, wounded 6 villagers and raped 15 women, witnesses and victims said.

    The attack played out like so many others in this vast, lawless region. Three men with machine guns stopped the truck on the road and fired into its cabin, shooting the driver and blowing out the tires. They ordered the passengers, about 50 men, women and children, to take the goods they were transporting — sacks of millet, two cows and five goats — to where their camels and the rest of their men were waiting in a dry riverbed a mile or two off the road. Once that labor was complete, the raiders set upon the women, raping them in turn, witnesses said.

    "They told us, 'You are slaves, we will finish you,' " said Hussein Ahmed Abdulla, who stood by helpless as the women were raped. "We will not allow you to move from Menawashie, not one kilometer.' "

    When the raping was done, the militiamen loaded their camels and rode off to the west. The passengers had to walk three hours in total darkness to reach here.

    Afterward, Isaac Ibrahim Muhammad, the driver of the truck, lay in a hut, his left foot caked with the blood from the bullet wound in his leg.

    In another hut was Hanan Ahmed Hussein, just 20 years old, delirious and murmuring with a gunshot wound to her knee. Her sister soothed Ms. Hussein's 1-year-old daughter, Menazir, in her lap. Menazir's tiny foot was encased in gauze, a red splotch of dried blood seeping through. She had been shot, too.

    "They say there is a peace, but yesterday they kill us," said Aisha Adam Moussa, Ms. Moussa's aunt. "They always say peace is coming. But we are still waiting."

    This skepticism about the new peace agreement is buttressed by the frequent and flagrant violation of the last cease-fire agreement, signed in 2004, by the rebels and the government in Darfur, the arid region in western Sudan that has been racked by a brutal ethnic and political conflict since 2003.

    Also feeding that skepticism is the fact that only one rebel faction signed the agreement. The leader of that faction is a Zaghawa, a small nomadic tribe, while most people here are Fur, members of the tribe of a rebel leader who did not sign. In Menawashie, sheiks insisted the peace agreement was meaningless without the Fur leader, Abdul Wahid al-Nur.

    "If Abdul Wahid doesn't sign, there is no peace," said Omar Muhammad Abakar, the chief sheik of the village.

    Between the capitals of North and South Darfur, Menawashie straddles perhaps the deepest fault line in this troubled region. In its latest report on the conflict, the International Crisis Group said this corridor — with its volatile mix of Arab nomads and non-Arab settled tribes, government controlled areas and rebel-held territory — was one of the most violent areas in all of Darfur. North of here, in rebel areas, the violence between rival rebel groups is similarly brutal.

    In Menawashie, that violence has taken the form of unceasing attacks by militias aligned with the government, even though Khartoum had agreed to rein in the fighters, village leaders said.

    "The Arabs come on horseback and they block the roads," Mr. Abakar said. "They enter our villages at night and steal our animals. They attack us on the roads."

    In a makeshift graveyard, Mr. Abakar walked among dozens of mounds, many of them fresh and covered with loose sand and gravel. He pointed out the graves of those most recently killed, including Fatma Yahyah Abdulla Sabeel, the woman killed in the truck attack, and the smaller mounds atop the graves of children who died of disease.

    This area is controlled by government troops, so protecting civilians from the attacks of militias is the job of the police, but they seldom respond, village officials said. African Union troops occasionally patrol the area, but their narrow mandate calls for them to monitor, not enforce, the 2004 cease-fire. An officer here, Maj. Essodina Kadangha, said the troops had received no new information about how to proceed now that a peace deal has been signed.

    The peace agreement outlines a plan to disarm the Arab militias and the rebel groups, and the United Nations plans to send in a force to replace the African Union one, which has struggled to police this region the size of France with just 7,000 troops, a weak mandate and few resources. Some Sudanese officials have said that the government does not object to a United Nations force now that a peace deal has been signed, but the government has not officially accepted the idea.

    In Menawashie, villagers said they were hemmed in by the attacks, trapped and helpless.

    "We cannot move even one kilometer from this village," Mr. Abakar said. "Why should it be so? We are suffering."

    Despite the danger, Ms. Moussa will soon be back collecting firewood, and back on the road to Shangil Tobayi, where firewood can fetch double the price it commands here, said her mother, Hawa Hissein Amin.

    Ms. Amin is unable to walk without a cane because she was shot in the leg by Arab militants when they attacked her village, Hamada, almost two years ago, and she fled here. Her husband was also killed in attack.

    "Of course she will have to go," she said of her daughter. "We have no other options. No one can help us."

                  

05-15-2006, 04:23 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    Hisham,


    Quote: As such he helped in the negotiations and the drafting of Darfur Peace Agreement (DPA



    .He did not help negotiating for the common good of humanity

    The books written by him are just more fictional prose than factual description seen by the eye of the real expert.

    Those fictions promoted him to compose the what Hashim referred as GARBAGE
                  

05-15-2006, 04:28 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    Hisham,


    Quote: As such he helped in the negotiations and the drafting of Darfur Peace Agreement (DPA



    .He did not help negotiating for the common good for humanity

    The books written by him are just more fictional prose than factual description seen by the eye of the real expert.

    Those fictions promoted him to compose what Hashim referred to as "GARBAGE"
    It is worthless than carbage.

    Carbage can be made use of.
                  

05-15-2006, 05:20 PM

Hashim Badr Eldin
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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Ahmed Mohamedain)

    Ahmed Mohamedain
    Assalamu alaikum
    Thanx for your input


    Quote: He did not help negotiating for the common good for humanity


    I hope we all read more critically what colonial intellectuals write about our country, and don’t just devour it religiously like our old generations.
                  

05-15-2006, 04:37 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    Dear Hashim
    Thank you for your reply
    Indeed I have not accused you of falsifying anything
    So, I do apologize if there was any suggestion to that effect
    All I meant was shedding more light on what Alex said about sending Abdelwahid to the Hague to appear before the ICC

    Yet, it is not clear to whom did Alex de Waal address his letter?
    can you shed some light on this matter?

    As for your other controversial points, I shall come back to make some comments

    take care
                  

05-15-2006, 05:03 PM

Hashim Badr Eldin
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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Adil Osman)

    Adil Osman
    Thanx for the prompt reply
    I wish I could always do that

    Quote:
    Yet, it is not clear to whom did Alex de Waal address his letter?
    can you shed some light on this matter?


    I don’t think that would shed more light on the substance of the letter.
                  

05-15-2006, 06:55 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    What kind of circuit is this! What the expression deadline means to those African diplomats and their Anglo-Saxon so-called consultants, and what at steak here other than their own careers!
    Threats are not working, guys, you have to deliver!

    Quote:


    Darfur rebels given more time to sign peace deal


    Mon May 15, 2006 4:42pm ET
    By Tsegaye Tadesse

    ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The African Union on Monday gave two rebel factions a further two weeks to sign a peace deal for Sudan's Darfur region while threatening possible international sanctions if they did not endorse it.

    Only one of the three Darfur rebel factions signed a May 5 accord with Khartoum to end fighting that has killed tens of thousands of people, and officials fear the two holdouts could instigate violence to scuttle the deal.

    Alpha Oumar Konare, chairman of the African Union (AU) commission, urged a faction of the rebel Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) led by Abdel Wahed Mohammed al-Nur and the smaller Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) to sign the deal unconditionally.


    "Should they embark on any action or measure likely to undermine the Darfur peace agreement, especially the ceasefire provisions, the (AU) should take appropriate measures ... including requesting the U.N. Security Council to impose sanctions against them," he said in a statement.

    The warning came as the AU's Peace and Security Council met in Addis Ababa to discuss how to push forward the peace process in Darfur, which U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan says is the world's worst humanitarian crisis.

    Nigerian Foreign Minister Olu Adeniji, chairman of the AU Peace and Security Council, later said the two hold-out rebel groups had been given more time to accept the peace accord.

    "The extension of the signature for those who didn't sign the agreement will be laid open until the end of May, after which, failure to sign will indicate non-commitment to the peace process and the AU will take a decision," he said.

    The peace agreement has provoked violent protests in Sudan by refugees who say it is not enough to protect them, and criticism from the Sudanese opposition that the parties were pressured into signing an ill-considered deal.
    MORE CONCESSIONS

    But one of Nur's close advisers said the international community should press Sudan's government to grant some extra concessions to make the deal more acceptable to the rebels.

    "If we agree on this document as it stands because of pressure from the international community, we will not be able to return to our people," said Babiker Mohamed Abdallah.

    "If the government is not serious, two weeks is not enough. If it is serious, even two days is enough," he told Reuters in the Nigerian capital Abuja.


    Although Nur is weak militarily, he represents Darfur's largest Fur tribe.

    Nur demands greater compensation from Khartoum for Darfur war victims, more political posts for the movement and greater SLA involvement in the disarmament of Janjaweed militias.

    "When I am assured that the supplementary document has addressed our demands and been attached to the agreement, I shall then attach my signature to the Darfur Peace Agreement," Nur said in a letter to the AU on Monday.

    In another sign of a concerted drive by the AU to pull the rebels into the deal, its chief Darfur mediator warned Nur he risked becoming irrelevant unless he accepted a deal already signed by Minni Arcua Minnawi, leader of the biggest SLA group.

    "In every situation where people have not been on board, eventually they will have to come on board or become irrelevant," Salim Ahmed Salim told Reuters
    Konare called for more AU troops to be sent to Darfur and urged Khartoum to produce a plan to disarm pro-government Janjaweed militias accused of a campaign of murder and rape that has driven more than 2 million people into camps in Darfur and neighboring Chad.

    Adeniji later said the AU had decided to begin handing over its peacekeeping force in Darfur to a UN-led operation as it announced two months ago. The AU said in March that it would extend its mission in Darfur until September 30 to allow more time to transfer control to U.N. forces.

    Annan said the AU mission should be turned over to the United Nations as soon as possible, but until then rich nations must provide immediate funding for the AU forces.

    Sudan had rejected a U.N. deployment in Darfur before a peace deal, and European Union officials said last week Khartoum now appeared to be reconsidering allowing U.N. troops.


    Jan Egeland, the U.N.'s top humanitarian official, predicted catastrophe if the deal was not implemented. "If it is not, it will mean a downward spiral which will get totally out of control and go into the abyss," he said from Geneva.

    (Additional reporting by Estelle Shirbon in Abuja and Robert Evans in Geneva)

    © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.

                  

05-16-2006, 06:37 PM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Hashim Badr Eldin)

    You said “they were forced into a cease-fire.” To me that is a defeat and you know that the ability to launch and sustain war entails many things, including winning the support of the international community.

    Again you quoted De Waal from his letter to Abdul Wahid “As a statement of the grievances and just demands of Darfurian people it is superb. As a proposal for a solution to the problem at hand, in which an armed Movement has failed to win a war, has extremely weak political structures, and is divided among itself, is facing an undefeated and powerful government that is recognized by the international community and has won legitimacy for its CPA with the South” and I find myself agreeing with him. The man “whom I never met and, nonetheless read his book about famine in Darfur, and referenced the latter extensively in a research about famine in Dar Masaleet” is stating some bold and cold facts.

    Again you quoted him “The DPA isn't perfect. But it is one hell of a lot better than staying out in the cold. This chance will not come again.” Again he is stating some naked facts.

    As someone who is extremely moved by the situation in Darfur, I could advise the fighters in Darfur to root for peace. War is far more destructive than any gains to come later. Beyond all is the case of the Southern Sudan, Liberia, Somalia, Angola, and Sierra Leone. The war in the South caused the death of two millions and the disability of more than that. This is a hell of a price.

    I used to be an adamant supporter of the revolutionary and independence wars. After studying the cases of many wars in Africa, I came to know that our problems in Africa are far more complicated than to be solved by war.
                  

05-17-2006, 04:46 AM

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Re: Alex De Waal, I know you can read (Re: Nasr)

    AU +Alex + Obasango do not care about the genuine peace in Darfur. What the care about the most, while threatening anyone who does not sign or does not recommend the incomplete Abuja peace deal, are their careers and to cover up their shortcomings such as encouraging NIF government to carry on ethnic cleansing in Darfur, The allegations of sexual abuses of AU troops, preservation of their intimate relations with the corrupt government the calibre of which is invariably less unfamiliar with AU leaders..
                  


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