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 Re: حوار جرئ مع نافع في استكهولم: ماذا قال نافع عن المعارضة (Re: Farida Mahgoub)
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Han andauml;r andouml;kandauml;nd fandouml;r sina medeltida tortyrmetoder - och andauml;r den sudanesiske diktatorns nandauml;rmaste hantlangare. He is notorious for his medieval torture methods and is the Sudanese dictator's closest henchman. I gandaring;r diskuterade Nafie Ali Nafie oljeflandouml;den med Sveriges utrikesminister Carl Bildt. N afie Ali Nafie, yesterday discussed the oil flows with Sweden's foreign minister Carl Bildt. – Jag har inte handouml;rt talas om Lundin fandouml;rrandauml;n den handauml;r resan, sandauml;ger Ali Nafie till Aftonbladet. – I have not heard of Lundin until this trip, "said Ali Nafie to AftonbladetEnligt mandauml;nniskorandauml;ttsgrupper och Sudan-experter andauml;r det doktor Nafie Ali Nafie, president al-Bashirs randaring;dgivare, som satte upp de andouml;kandauml;nda sandaring; kallade ”spandouml;k husen” i den sudanesiska andouml;knen; tortyrcentra som anklagas fandouml;r att anvandauml;nda sig av medeltida tortyrmetoder. According to human rights groups and Sudan experts is that Dr. Nafie Ali Nafie, president al-Bashir's Adviser who set up the notorious so-called "ghost houses" in the Sudanese desert; torture centers accused of using medieval methods of torture.[/left]
(عدل بواسطة Farida Mahgoub on 02-02-2013, 03:37 PM)
(عدل بواسطة Farida Mahgoub on 02-02-2013, 03:41 PM)
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Re: حوار جرئ مع نافع في استكهولم: ماذا قال نافع عن المعارضة (Re: Farida Mahgoub)
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Vad kandauml;nner du till om det svenska oljebolaget Lundin?
What do you know about the Swedish oil company Lundin?
– Jag har aldrig handouml;rt talas om dem fandouml;rrandauml;n den handauml;r resan.
I have never heard of them until this trip.
Men enligt uppgifter i svensk affandauml;rspress (Dagens industri, reds anm.) och enligt Aftonbladets kandauml;llor har Lundin och Sveriges utrikesminister Carl Bildt umgandaring;tts under avslappnade former med Sudans president.
But according to Swedish business press (Dagens industri, reds notes) and, according to Aftonbladet's sources, Lundin and Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt spent time under relaxed shapes with the Sudanese president.
– Presidenten kandauml;nner sandaring; mandaring;nga mandauml;nniskor! Jag kan inte handaring;lla reda pandaring; alla han trandauml;ffar, men andauml;r det inte bra att han har mandaring;nga vandauml;nner?
– President knows so many people! I can't keep track of everyone he meets, but it is not good that he have many friends?
Du dandaring;, kandauml;nner du Sveriges utrikesminister sedan tidigare?
You then, do you know Sweden's foreign minister then before?
– Jag hade aldrig handouml;rt talas om honom, inte fandouml;rrandauml;n jag trandauml;ffade honom i gandaring;r.
I had never heard of him, not until I met him yesterday.
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Re: حوار جرئ مع نافع في استكهولم: ماذا قال نافع عن المعارضة (Re: Farida Mahgoub)
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Vad tycker du om Sverige?
What do you think of Sweden?
– Det andauml;r ett av fandaring; europeiska landauml;nder som vi har bra och handauml;lsosamma relationer med. Till skillnad frandaring;n mandaring;nga andra landauml;nder andauml;r Sverige pandaring; hugget och alltid intresserat av samarbete.
– It is one of the few European countries that we have good and healthy relationship with. Unlike many other countries are Sweden quick-witted and always interested in cooperation.
"Det andauml;r allvarligt"
"It's serious"
Tidigare pandaring; dagen trandauml;ffade Nafie Ali Nafie delar av utrikesutskottet. Det var ett ovanligt mandouml;te som andauml;gde rum.
Earlier in the day met with Nafie Ali Nafie parts of the Foreign Affairs Committee. It was an unusual meeting which took place.
Sveriges Sudan ambassadandouml;r Jan Sadek ville inte svara pandaring; nandaring;gra frandaring;gor. Désirée Pethrus (KD) stod landauml;nge och tvekade om hon skulle gandaring; in pandaring; mandouml;tet. Och Centerns utrikes politiska talesperson Kerstin Lundgren kunde landauml;nge inte bestandauml;mma sig fandouml;r om hon skulle delta i mandouml;tet.
Sweden's Ambassador to Sudan Jan Sadek didn't want to answer a few questions. Désirée Pethrus (KD) was long and doubted if she would go into the meeting. And the Center party's foreign policy spokesperson Kerstin Lundgren could not yet decide whether she would attend the meeting.
Till Aftonbladet sa hon:
– Det andauml;r en mycket speciell situation eftersom Sudans ledning andauml;r efterlyst av Internationella brottmandaring;lsdomstolen. Jag kan dandauml;rfandouml;r inte bestandauml;mma mig om huruvida jag ska gandaring; in pandaring; mandouml;tet eller inte.
To Aftonbladet she said: "it is a very special situation because the Sudanese leadership is wanted by the International Criminal Court. I cannot make up my mind about whether I'll go to the meeting or not.
Frandaring;gade om andouml;vergreppen
Asked about the abuse
Men till slut gick Kerstin Lundgren in i mandouml;tesrummet. Nandauml;r hon kom ut sa hon:
– Jag tog upp att vi blev nekade att bidra med militandauml;ra insatser i Darfur 2008 och att vi tycker att det andauml;r allvarligt. Jag betonade ocksandaring; att Sverige standouml;djer ICC.
But in the end went Kerstin Lundgren into the meeting room. When she came out she said: I took up that we were denied to contribute with military operations in Darfur in 2008, and that we think it is serious. I also stressed that Sweden supports the ICC.
Standauml;lldes det nandaring;gra frandaring;gor om de svenska oljebolag som varit verksamma i Sudan och som nu utreds fandouml;r brotts mot den humanitandauml;ra randauml;tten?
Were there any questions about the Swedish oil company that has been operating in Sudan and is now under investigation for crime against international humanitarian law?
– Ja, jag frandaring;gade om Lundin men fick inget svar. Det var tydligt att han ville undvika att tala om Lundin.
– Yes, I asked if Lundin but got no answer. It was clear that he wanted to avoid talking about Lundin.
Fredrik Malm (FP) standauml;llde frandaring;gor om Nafies roll som tortyrmandauml;stare.
– Det var handaring;rda ord frandaring;n vandaring;r sida. Men doktor Nafie gav inga raka svar; han fandouml;redrog att prata om Guantanamo i standauml;llet fandouml;r brott mot mandauml;nskligheten i Sudan.
Fredrik Malm (FP) asking questions about Nafies role of torture masters. –
There were harsh words from our side. But Dr Nafie gave no straight answers; He preferred to talk about Guantanamo rather than crimes against humanity in Sudan.
* Efter att artikeln publicerats vill Carl Bildts pressekreterare Erik Zsiga gandouml;ra fandouml;ljande fandouml;rtydligande:
"Mandouml;tet handlade om fredsprocessen mellan Sudan och Sydsudan. Olja och oljetillgandaring;ng diskuterades SOM EN AV FLERA ASPEKTER SOM PandAring;VERKAR MandOuml;JLIGHETEN ATT FandAring; FRED I REGIONEN. Det andauml;r naturligt eftersom konflikten dandauml;r BLAND ANNAT handlar om olja, sandauml;ger han. Oljeflandouml;den och energi diskuterades ALLTSandAring; VISSERLIGEN, MEN JAG VILL UNDERSTRYKA ATT DET ALLTSandAring; VAR I DESS KOPPLING TILL MandOuml;JLIGHETERNA ATT FandAring; FRED. Vilka bolag som berandouml;rs tror jag inte diskuterades."
* After the article published to Carl Bildt's Press Secretary Erik Zsiga do the following clarification: "the meeting was about the peace process between Sudan and South Sudan. Oil and oil supply was discussed AS ONE of MANY ASPECTS that INFLUENCE the POSSIBILITY of peace in the region. It is natural because the conflict there, AMONG OTHER THINGS, is all about oil, "he said. Oil flows and energy were discussed, THEREFORE, CERTAINLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE to EMPHASIZE that IT was in ITS CONNECTION to the OPPORTUNITIES to achieve peace. The companies involved, I do not believe was discussed. "
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Re: حوار جرئ مع نافع في استكهولم: ماذا قال نافع عن المعارضة (Re: Farida Mahgoub)
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يا جماعة الزول كضب كضب شديد خلاص وقال ما سمع عن وزير الخارجية السويدية قبل الاجتماع ده
انا جاي هسي من غسيل الكلي وتعبان شوية فشنو حاكتب الكلام ال بالانجليزي كلو هنا عشان تسهل المتابعة
وامشي انوم شوية وبعدين بجي اترجمه بالعربي
He is notorious for his medieval torture methods and is the Sudanese dictator's closest henchman
Nafie Ali Nafie, yesterday discussed the oil flows with Sweden's foreign minister Carl Bildt.
I have not heard of Lundin until this trip, "said Ali Nafie to Aftonbladet
According to human rights groups and Sudan experts is that Dr. Nafie Ali Nafie, president al-Bashir's Adviser who set up the notorious so-called "ghost houses" in the Sudanese desert; torture centers accused of using medieval methods of torture
Discussed oil
Yesterday, he met with Foreign Minister Carl Bildt.According to informed sources discussed the Sudanese delegation oil flows with the Foreign Minister
These data are confirmed by Carl Bildt's Press Secretary Erik Zsiga
The meeting was about the peace process between Sudan and South Sudan. Oil and oil access was discussed. It is natural because the conflict there is all about oil, "he said. It was oil flows and energy were discussed. The companies involved, I do not believe was discussed
The Only Western propaganda"
Today Aftonbladet got an exclusive interview with Nafie Ali Nafie. When Aftonbladet hit him in a suite at the Hotel Scandic Plaza in Stockholm is that the torture accused politician to ask the first question:
Why are you so interested in me
The Sudanese National Intelligence Security Service, Securities, was the head of, accused of murder and torture. How do you see it?
That's just West propaganda and propaganda from the opposition. It has no legitimacy
What do you know about the Swedish oil company Lundin?
I have never heard of them until this trip
But according to Swedish business press (Dagens industri, reds notes) and, according to Aftonbladet's sources, Lundin and Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt spent time under relaxed shapes with the Sudanese president.
President knows so many people! I can't keep track of everyone he meets, but it is not good that he have many friends?
You then, do you know Sweden's foreign minister then before
I had never heard of him, not until I met him yesterday
Good contact with Sweden
The statement may seem strange given that Carl Bildt himself claims to have made a significant peace efforts in Sudan. So the question is asked again; but in vain; Nafie would say nothing more about Bildt
The International Criminal Court in the Hague, whose work Sweden supports, has issued arrest warrants for several members of your regimen. On arresteringslistan included President Omar al-Bashir. How do you set up for the ICC
We do not believe that the Criminal Court in the Hague is legitimate, for us, is it a political instrument
What do you think of Sweden?
It is one of the few European countries that we have good and healthy relationship with. Unlike many other countries are Sweden quick-witted and always interested in cooperation.
It's serious"
Earlier in the day met with Nafie Ali Nafie parts of the Foreign Affairs Committee. It was an unusual meeting which took place
Sweden's Ambassador to Sudan Jan Sadek didn't want to answer a few questions. Désirée Pethrus (KD) was long and doubted if she would go into the meeting. And the Center party's foreign policy spokesperson Kerstin Lundgren could not yet decide whether she would attend the meeting.
To Aftonbladet she said: "it is a very special situation because the Sudanese leadership is wanted by the International Criminal Court. I cannot make up my mind about whether I'll go to the meeting or not.
Asked about the abuse
But in the end went Kerstin Lundgren into the meeting room. When she came out she said: I took up that we were denied to contribute with military operations in Darfur in 2008, and that we think it is serious. I also stressed that Sweden supports the ICC.
Were there any questions about the Swedish oil company that has been operating in Sudan and is now under investigation for crime against international humanitarian law
Yes, I asked if Lundin but got no answer. It was clear that he wanted to avoid talking about Lundin.
Fredrik Malm (FP) asking questions about Nafies role of torture masters. –
There were harsh words from our side. But Dr Nafie gave no straight answers; He preferred to talk about Guantanamo rather than crimes against humanity in Sudan.
After the article published to Carl Bildt's Press Secretary Erik Zsiga do the following clarification: "the meeting was about the peace process between Sudan and South Sudan. Oil and oil supply was discussed AS ONE of MANY ASPECTS that INFLUENCE the POSSIBILITY of peace in the region. It is natural because the conflict there, AMONG OTHER THINGS, is all about oil, "he said. Oil flows and energy were discussed, THEREFORE, CERTAINLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE to EMPHASIZE that IT was in ITS CONNECTION to the OPPORTUNITIES to achieve peace. The companies involved, I do not believe was discussed. "Nafie nafie
وده المصدر
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16161561.ab
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Farida Mahgoub
الزبير صالح الزبير
فيس بوك
تويتر
انستقرام
يوتيوب
بنتيريست