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دعواتكم لزميلنا المفكر د.الباقر العفيف بالشفاء العاجل
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The Wellcome Foundation Ltd
GSK was formed in 2000 by the merger of GlaxoWellcome plc (formed from the acquisition of Wellcome plc by Glaxo plc), and SmithKline Beecham plc (formed from the merger of Beecham plc and SmithKline Beckman Corporation).
GlaxoSmithKline plc (GSK) (LSE: GSK, NYSE: GSK) is a British multinational pharmaceutical, biologics, vaccines and consumer healthcare company headquartered in London, United Kingdom. It is the world's fourth-largest pharmaceutical company measured by 2009 prescription drug sales (after Pfizer, Novartis, and Sanofi).[3]
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: ombadda)
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الأخ/ بكري أبوبكر
وكل البورداب والفيسبوكاب
لكم التحية
لو ملاحظين الفيديو الأول به من أبناء الشمال والشرق والغرب وكمان اخوتنا الجنوبيين
أحد الأخوان له تعليق من الفيسبوك (الجري وراء العجلة) فإذا شاهد الفيديو جيداً لأن هذا (سباق) بالإقدام وكان صاحب الدراجة يريد تشجيعهم (يعني هل يستطيعون أن يسابقوه وهو بالدراجة)
ولنا عودة
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: اسماعيل عبد الله محمد)
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إذا كان في 1912 قبل مائة سنة في كاميرا فيديو في السودان وبتصور في مشاهد إجتماعية عادية
فدا يعني في هناك الكتير من الفيديوهات البتوثق لأحداث مهمة من تاريخ السودان في الفترة من 1912 حتي 1965
ياريت يا بكري تتم جميلك وتشوف باقي الفيديوهات مدام عرفت باب المغارة
وبرضو ياريت مصدر الفيديو الفوق
وبما أن موقع التصوير جبل موية فياريت لو في زول يدينا فكرة عن منطقة جبل موية وماهي المنشأة التي تم بناها في تلك الفترة لانو باين في الفيديو في بناء وآليات
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: أسامة البلال)
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ماذا يثبت ان الفيديو يرجع للعام 1912؟
وماذا يثبت انه اخذ في منطقة جبل مويه بالسودان؟؟؟
هل الديباجة في اول الفيلم دليل كاف على المكان والزمان؟؟؟
ارجو ان يتسع صدر من يرد وبموضوعيه...نريد الاستفادة ومعرفة
كيف يتم الاستدلال والتحقق ...وكيف يمكن التأكد من معرفة فيديو كهذا
اذا ما كان حقيقة يرجع لزمان ومكان ما في زمن تطورت فيه التقنية
لدرجة انه يمكن التقاط فيديو او صور في سنة 2013 والتأثير عليها
بتقنية ما لتبدو لك وكأنها اخذت في القرن الماضي.
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: الصادق محمد احمد)
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التصوير ليس فيديو ولكن كاميرا تصوير سينمائيه قديمة
الصورة من ارشيف Henry Wellcome
| Quote: Sir Henry Solomon Wellcome (August 21, 1853 – July 25, 1936) FRS[1] was an American-British pharmaceutical entrepreneur. He founded the pharmaceutical company Burroughs Wellcome and Company with his colleague Silas Burroughs,[2] which is one of the four large companies that merged to form GlaxoSmithKline. In addition, he left a large amount of capital for charitable work in his will, which was used to form the Wellcome Trust, one of the world's largest medical charities. He was a keen collector of medical artifacts.[citation needed] |
الوكيبديا
لتفاصيل اكثر عن حياته في هذا الرابط
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/about-us/history/index.htm
والصورة في مداخلتي السابقة لصاحب الفيديو ,,
,في المداخلة التالية ساضع بعض الصور من ارشيف هنرى ولكم والروابط
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ا| Quote: لصورة دي لمعسكر جبل موية كاملا (من الملاحظة الاولية للاليات الظاهرة في الصورة , مع الاليات الظاهرة في الفيديو تعطي قرينة قوية لان الموقع لكسارة واحتمال ضعيف لمنجم) |
دي ما كسارة
دي آله للغربلة
لفرز أحجام مختلفة للحجارة و التراب و خلافه
و الغربله جزء مهم في التنقيب على الآثار
المعدنية (العملة) و الحلى و حتى أعضاء الإنسان كالأسنان مثلا
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لو ربنا حيانا حا أشرح ليك الفلم دا كلو
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يظهر فى الفيديو هنرى ويلكم كما نوه بذلك الأخ عمار. و Henry Wellcome هو صاحب
The Wellcome Foundation Ltd
والتى اندمجت فيما بعد مع شركة
Glaxo plc
ليصير اسم الشركة
GlaxoWellcome plc
ثم حدث اندماج آخر بين شركة جلاكسو ويلكم وشركة
SmithKline Beecham
لتتكون شركة
GlaxoSmithKline plc
ولو رفعت أى دواء او عقار احتمال كبير تلقى اسم الشركة دى، لانها رابع شركة فى العالم.
الفيديو موجود فى الموقع الرسمى لى ويلكم يعنى مستحيل يكون مفبرك كما شكك فى ذلك الصادق محمد
catalogue.wellcome.ac.uk/
والبوست مناسبة لالقاء الضوء على هنرى ويلكم وفترته فى السودان، وماذا فعل فى السودان؟
ابحثوا معانا وارفدوا البوست دة بالمعلومات التى تجدونها للفائدة العامة والتوثيق لتلك الحقبة من تاريخ السودان.
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: عمار عبدالله عبدالرحمن)
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لم يرد اسم هنري ولكم كموظف ضمن الموظفين الحكوميين في فترة الحكم الاستعماري البغيض (الاغلب حسب تتبع رحلاتها انه من المغامرين الباحثين عن الثروات)
في كل الصور لا يظهر معه اصطاف من الموظفين الحكوميين (الا شخص او شخصين) خاصة ان منطقة جبل موية ليست المنطقة النائية او البعيدة ,, فالحاكم الاداري
للنيل الابيض كان له قصر صيفي في منطقة جبل كبيبشه القريبة جدا من هذا المنطقة وبها محطة سكة حديد ,,
صورة تظهره مع مشائخ في منطقة سقدي ,,
لاحظ الكوتشين المكتوب تحت
Quote: M0013044 Credit: Wellcome Library, London
Wellcome excavations in Sudan (Jebel Moya): H. Wellcome and his medical officer Dr Ray with a party of sheiks inspecting the excavations at Saqadi, 1913.
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عمار
البوست محفز للقراءة والتنقيب عن سيرة السير هنرى ويلكم خاصة الفترة التى تواجد فيها فى السودان.
سرقة الآثار والتنقيب عن الذهب بدأ مع الاستعمار التركى. وكلنا حفظ عن ظهر قلب فى المدرسة ان من اسباب غزو محمد على باشا للسودان هو البحث عن العبيد والذهب.
ولا زالت الاهرامات التى تم اكتشافها فى الشمالية شاهدة على هذا النهب والتدمير للآثار. كل الأهرامات قممها مبتورة والسبب كما قيل ان أحد المغأمرين اللصوص الاوروييين اعتقد بأن كنوز النوبة متوااجدة فى قمم تلك الاهرامات. وبدأ الهدم. وما خفى أعظم.
الغريبة بعد 100 سنة استقظ السودانيين فجاة وبدأ التنقيب عن الذهب- آلاف الشباب الآن فى مواقع التنقيب منهم من اغتنى وصار فاحش الثراء بين ليلة وضحاها ومنهم من عاد بخفى حنين ومنهم من لم يعد.
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سلامات عوافي
شكرا لايراد الفيديو
هناك ملاحظة حول الزي الذي يرتديه هولاء الذين تم تصويرهم بذلك الزمان رجال ونساء
والمعروف والسائد انه كان ينتشر التوب للرجال والنساء و الجلباب لم يكن متوفراً بذلك الزمان الا لقلة وهم الاثرياء فقط
وذلك حسب ماقراته بمقتطفات من مذكرات بابكر بدري التي تم نشر جزء منها هنا بالمنبر وفي موقع سودانيات ..
شئ يدعو الي الوقوف للتاكد من تاريخ الفيديو ..
مع ودي
واحترامي
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Qute:
The journal article added
fascinating background on
the architect of this
scheme. Wellcome's
expedition to the Sudan
(between 1911 and 1914)
was one of the more
telling incidents of his life,
and he brought back to
London a number of
historic finds. In the light
of his present-day
influence, you would not
think it out of place on the
front of Newsweek or The
Sunday Times.
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تميمة السودانية مكتوبة باللغة العربية على الخشب بالقلم خشبية مع آيات من القرآن الكريم.
قدمت إلى ويلكوم من قبل السكان المحليين في التقدير الفوائد المترتبة عليها من الحفريات الأثرية في جبل مويا
سورة الإسراء
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وَأَنَّ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآَخِرَةِ أَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا (10) وَيَدْعُ الْإِنْسَانُ بِالشَّرِّ دُعَاءَهُ بِالْخَيْرِ وَكَانَ الْإِنْسَانُ عَجُولًا (11) وَجَعَلْنَا اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ آَيَتَيْنِ فَمَحَوْنَا آَيَةَ اللَّيْلِ وَجَعَلْنَا آَيَةَ النَّهَارِ مُبْصِرَةً لِتَبْتَغُوا فَضْلًا مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ وَلِتَعْلَمُوا عَدَدَ السِّنِينَ وَالْحِسَابَ وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ فَصَّلْنَاهُ تَفْصِيلًا (12) وَكُلَّ إِنْسَانٍ أَلْزَمْنَاهُ طَائِرَهُ فِي عُنُقِهِ وَنُخْرِجُ لَهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ كِتَابًا يَلْقَاهُ مَنْشُورًا (13) اقْرَأْ كِتَابَكَ كَفَى بِنَفْسِكَ الْيَوْمَ عَلَيْكَ حَسِيبًا (14) مَنِ اهْتَدَى فَإِنَّمَا يَهْتَدِي لِنَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ ضَلَّ فَإِنَّمَا يَضِلُّ عَلَيْهَا وَلَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَى وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّى نَبْعَثَ رَسُولًا (15) وَإِذَا أَرَدْنَا أَنْ نُهْلِكَ قَرْيَةً أَمَرْنَا مُتْرَفِيهَا فَفَسَقُوا فِيهَا فَحَقَّ عَلَيْهَا الْقَوْلُ فَدَمَّرْنَاهَا تَدْمِيرًا (16) وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا مِنَ الْقُرُونِ مِنْ بَعْدِ نُوحٍ وَكَفَى بِرَبِّكَ بِذُنُوبِ عِبَادِهِ خَبِيرًا بَصِيرًا (17) مَنْ كَانَ يُرِيدُ الْعَاجِلَةَ عَجَّلْنَا لَهُ فِيهَا مَا نَشَاءُ لِمَنْ نُرِيدُ ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَا لَهُ جَهَنَّمَ يَصْلَاهَا مَذْمُومًا مَدْحُورًا (18) وَمَنْ أَرَادَ الْآَخِرَةَ وَسَعَى لَهَا سَعْيَهَا وَهُوَ مُؤْمِنٌ فَأُولَئِكَ كَانَ سَعْيُهُمْ مَشْكُورًا (19) كُلًّا نُمِدُّ هَؤُلَاءِ وَهَؤُلَاءِ مِنْ عَطَاءِ رَبِّكَ وَمَا كَانَ عَطَاءُ رَبِّكَ مَحْظُورًا (20) انْظُرْ كَيْفَ فَضَّلْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ وَلَلْآَخِرَةُ أَكْبَرُ دَرَجَاتٍ وَأَكْبَرُ تَفْضِيلًا (21) لَا تَجْعَلْ مَعَ اللَّهِ إِلَهًا آَخَرَ فَتَقْعُدَ مَذْمُومًا مَخْذُولًا (22) وَقَضَى
صدق الله العظيم
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Quote:
the most cursory look
at his life reveals him as a
notoriously defensive and
aloof man - a trait that, as
he got older, became a
reclusive hostility. By the
time of his death, he had
no real friends, apart from
his Masonic contacts, but
had bunkered himself
against an unpredictable
world with a quest for
eternal success.
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شكرا بكري ابوبكر على فتح نافذة على تاريخنا القريب
هنري ولكم قدم الكثير للسودان في الجانب العلمي ويكفي ان احد المعامل التي اهديت لكلية غردون كانت من ويلكم
بصماته واضحة في المنطقة في الجزء الجوبي من شارع القصر حاليا حيث حوى المبني الشرقي وهو التؤام لمبني القبة في كلية الطب او ما يعرف بالمتحف احد اول المعامل واالغريبة انه يجاور معمل استاك ولازلت ابحث في هذا الموضوع باستمرار لكن المصادر شحيحة لكن ارشيف وزارة الصحة السودانية يحمل الكثير (ان كان مصانا) عن هنري ويلكم ودوره في ابحاث الطب المداري
عثرت في احد الكتب من عام 1948 ان المبني الذي كان معملا لشركة هنري ويلكم تحول ليصبح مقراً لمدرسة الصحة عند تاسيسها في العام 1933
و ساورد رابط الكتاب عند عثوري عليه.
جبل موية (جنوب الجزيرة) كان احد اول اماكن التنقيب عن الاثار في السودان و تظهر في الفيديو سكك حديد تركب في الموقع للتنقيب عن الاثار و هي نفس الطريقة المستخدمة في مصر للتنقيب عن الاثار وبالتالي هذا ليس محجرا ولا منجماً كما اشار بعض الاخوة
عثرت على مباني اثرية في المنطقة لا ادري ماذا احدث الزمن فيها و لماذا لم تتواصل الابحاث الاثرية في المنطقة رغم انها كانت واعدة
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ومن موقع اخر الاقتباس لايعمل معي
http://www.oocities.org/aaadeel/HSW.html.tmp
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Portrait of Henry Wellcome
Henry Solomon Wellcome and the Sudan
By Ahmed Awad Abdel-Hameed Adeel
18 Sept. 2000
My Dear Sir Henry ...
I have always said that you are a "world benefactor ", and every day I live, I feel more and more of the truth of that thoroughly well earned title. I hope you may long be spared to carry on for the world's welfare."
Sir Reginald Wingate, 1933 (1)
The Early Years of Henry Wellcome:
Henry Solomon Wellcome was born half a world away from the Sudan in the American Midwest in 1853. His personal qualities and attitudes to life have been shaped in his early years. The Wellcome family was deeply religious , his father and two uncles were ministers of the Adventist sect. When Henry was eight, his family moved to Garden City, Minnesota where his other uncle, Jacob Wellcome was in medical practice.
In the 1860ies the Midwest was still frontier country. Shortly after the family settled in Garden City there was an Indian uprising in the area. Over 2000 settlers were killed and the towns were transformed to small fortresses defended by volunteers and troops. The young Henry helped his uncle in caring for the wounded and he was also appointed captain to a group of children casting rifle bullets for the settlers. The uprising ended in an Indian defeat and the public hanging of 38 Sioux Indian chiefs. This event created in Wellcome a life-long awareness of the suffering of the dispossessed peoples in whom he saw the suffering of mankind. Later in his life, for many years he supported missionary work among a group of American Indians.
In Garden City Henry managed to get good education and worked in a drug store attached to his uncle's clinic. Here he gained his first experience in business and a fascination with pharmacy. He moved to Chicago and then to Philadelphia where he worked and studied Pharmacy, graduating in 1874 from Philadelphia College of Pharmacy.
He chose to move to the East in quest of better business opportunities. While working for the firm of Caswell Hazard and Co. in New York he became an active member of the American Pharmaceutical Association. He soon received an offer from the firm of McKesson and Robins to become a traveling salesman to promote there newly - introduced gelatin - coated tablets. This new job took him in adventurous journeys to remote parts of South America. By 1879 Wellcome had an established reputation as a pharmaceutical salesman.
He was then invited by Silas Burroughs, a college friend, to join him in a partnership to establish a firm in Britain to market American compressed tablets The partnership agreement was signed and the firm of Burroughs and Wellcome and Co. came into existence in 1880. The new company was established at the right time and in the right part of the world. The market in Britain lacked manufacturing chemists and the bottled drug preparations could not stand competition with the more convenient and precisely dosed American compressed tablets. What was required of the Burroughs and Wellcome was to convey these advantages to the English consumer .. This was not a problem for Wellcome who was well known for his talents in advertising. Soon the partners decided to manufacture their own drugs with great success. In 1885 Burroughs died of pleurisy and Wellcome became the sole proprietor of the firm. Afterwards, the company underwent a great expansion and Wellcome became the leading figure in the British pharmaceutical industry. He opened overseas branches all over the world.
Henry Wellcome's social activities brought him into contact with the great. African explorer Sir Henry Stanley. The two men had alot in common, Stanley had even humbler background being raised in an orphanage. Wellcome became one of Stanley's most staunch supporters. His friendship with Stanley was largely responsible for his profound interest in Africa.
Wellcome's Nile Cruise and his Association with the Sudan:
During the winter of 1900-1901, Mr. Henry Wellcome, then a well-known drug manufacturer, happened to be in one of the first parties of European civilians to visit the Sudan after the battle of Omdurman, having sailed up the Nile from Egypt. This visit left very strong impressions on Wellcome. The country was devastated by war,disease and famine. This is illustrated in his account of (sabaloka) an island north of Khartoum where, in the course of this trip , he found most of the inhabitants afflicted by a severe febrile illness:
...." It was very touching to see those natives who had come off from the shore to alleviate the suffering of their neighbours. This indicates in an agreeable manner how, in times of distress, the whole world is akin. I have been informed of instances where natives who were of enemy tribes came under truce to assist their neighbours when helplessly ill. ....One thing that impressed me greatly when I was at Khartoum was the possibility of making that city as healthy as New York, London or any other place. With its central location, it occurred to me that one could reach out in various directions from Khartoum, as a base, and collect materials and specimens for scientific investigation."(2)
IMAGE: HSW in his Nile cruise.
On reaching Khartoum he was hosted by Wingate, the Governor General of Sudan and James Currie, Director of Education. He was shown plans for the Gordon Memorial College, under construction by public donations for the memory of Charles Gordon. The generous donations enabled establishment of a Gordon Memorial Fund and erection of a magnificent Brown-brick "college" building with Gothic tendencies. However , the Educational system in Sudan was in its infancy. Primary education and basic industrial training were considered the first priority. Thus after lodging the basic educational institutions, Currie suggested that the unoccupied rooms in the Gordon College could be utilized for auxiliary institutions, including a small analytical laboratory which,due to lack of funds, he hesitantly suggested "more in a spirit of expectation than a practical proposal" (3). After seeing these plans, Wellcome immediately offered to donate Bacteriological and Analytical laboratories to be part of the Gordon College provided that the authorities contributed to the upkeep of these laboratories. The thought of having to pay for the maintenance of the laboratories delayed acceptance of this generous offer until consultations were made with Lord Cromer, the British High Commissioner in Egypt and with the Financial Advisor of Egypt . Wingate was advised that the cost of Wellcome's gift was about £ 15,000 and that the annual cost of running the laboratories was estimated to be £ E 800 of which £E 400 could be paid by The Gordon Memorial Fund and £ E 400 by the government. Having secured approval of the authorities in Egypt, Wingate asked Wellcome to submit an official offer of his gift ,to which Wellcome responded by the following letter :(4)
Snow Hill Buildings,
September 28th, 1901,
London.
Sir,
I beg to offer for the acceptance of the Gordon Memorial College, Khartoum, a complete equipment for Chemical and Bacteriological Laboratories for Analytical and Research Work. The Laboratories would be designed
-To promote technical education.
-To undertake the testing and assaying of agricultural , mineral and other substances of practical interest in the industrial development of the Sudan.
-To carry out such tests in connection with waters , food stuffs and sanitary matters as may be found desirable.
-To aid in criminal investigation in poisoning cases (which are so frequent in Sudan) by detecting and experimental determination of toxic agents , particularly those obscure potent substances employed by the natives.
-To study bacteriologically and physiologically tropical disorders especially the infective diseases of both man and beast peculiar to the Sudan, and to render assistance to the officers of health and the clinics of civil and military hospitals. In order that the work of the laboratories may be thorough and efficient it is very desirable that the director shall be skilled and resourceful and be prepared to direct and carry out with zeal and energy all branches of work for which the laboratories are equipped, and a man who is willing to devote his life to the work of the Institution. It is anticipated that the work of the laboratories will prove beneficial to both the European and native population.It is my desire that the laboratories be made as far as practicable self-supporting, by the charging of such reasonable fees as will aid in covering the cost of maintaining them. The only condition that I stipulate in making this offer is that the authorities are to maintain the laboratories and appoint and maintain an efficient Director and Staff for conducting the work.
In the event of your doing me the honour of accepting my offer I propose that the equipment shall be delivered either at Alexandria or Port Said, as you may prefer.
I have the honour to be, Sir
your obedient Servant.
(signed) Henry S. Wellcome
To General Sir Reginald Wingate KCMG, KCB, DSO etc.
Governor General of the Sudan.
19 Bryanston Square W.
IMAGE :Gordon Memorial College,1902.
IMAGE :Inauguration of Gordon Memorial College,1902.
Wellcome paricipated in selection of the first director of the laboratories,Dr Andrew Balfour. In 1905 he was elected member of the Governing Body of the Gordon Memorial College, position which he held for the rest of his life. His contribution by establishing the Wellcome Tropical Research Laboratories in Khartoum (WTRLK)had a great impact on the development of health services , medical research and medical education in the Sudan and put this country in the forefront of tropical diseases research .
IMAGE :HSW (center, front row)with the staff of WTRLK, 1910.
Manuscript: Paper on the Wellcome Tropical research Laboratories in Khartoum.
Wellcome Tropical Research Laboratories in Khartoum , Bacteriology Laboratory,1902.
Wellcome Tropical Research Laboratories in Khartoum , Chemistry Laboratory,1902.
Wellcome's Project in Jebel Moya:
The association of Sir Henry Wellcome with the Sudan involved more than his donations for the WTRLK. He was directly involved in the planning and running or extensive archeological excavations in the central Sudan. This project served as a field in which Wellcome found an outlet for his philanthropy. Here he also exercised his exceptional organizational skills and his flair for innovation. As he later explained , Wellcome had a special interest in the ancient history of the Sudan:
"That soil of Egypt. and Ethiopia had been the burial-place of extremely ancient civilizations is a fact familiar to every student. It has been suggested that here also we should seek the veritable birthplace of human civilization itself. Do the sand of this land of enigmas still hide within their depths an answer to the eternal enigma of man's beginning and a record of his first steps upon the pathway of knowledge?"(5)
Wellcome had this question in mind when he made his first acquaintance with the Sudan during his visit of 1900. He did not visit the Sudan again for 10 years. During this period his association with the Sudan grew stronger. In 1905 he was appointed member of the Board of Trustees of the Gordon Memorial College. This brought him in close contact with the authorities in the Sudan.
Wellcome's first trip to the Sudan was also associated with a significant event in his personal life. During this trip, Wellcome met with Sync, a strikingly beautiful woman. They got married a few months afterwards in London. It was not a happy marriage, they separated in 1909. Wellcome felt a deep sorrow for failure of his marriage .In 1910,soon after separation from his wife he wrote to a friend:
"...I shall drown my sorrow in work. Work is a great comforter, and my life work is one that contributes to the welfare of others, as well as myself, and this thought helps to brighten one's life."(6)
Towards the end of 1910 , Wellcome was also recovering from a severe illness and was advised by his doctors to spend the winter recuperating in Egypt. Before embarking oat his trip he was invited by Lord Kitchener who happened to be in Britain at the time. Kitchener requested from Wellcome to extend his charity 'work in the Sudan, which started with the donation of the laboratories. Wellcome promised to respond to this request without committing himself to any specific details.
After visiting Egypt he traveled southwards to Khartoum. There he proposed to the authorities his desire to start a project combining welfare and large-scale archeological excavations. This was a timely proposal for the Sudan Government, which was in bad need of private contributions to archeological excavation . . In spite of international interest in the ancient history of the Sudan, the authorities had to completely depend on donors for this activity, which was not seen as top priority as stated by Wingate:
"Among the many actual or contemplated developments which have to be abandoned in the Sudan owing to the present shortage of funds, not, the least important is the Archaeological Section... I feel I cannot, in view or many other more urgent demands, provide the funds required to pay for the staff which had been practically engaged and therefore, it is with greatest. reluctance that. I have to forego for the present our projected archeological development " (7)
In Khartoum , Wellcome learnt about possible locations for archeological excavations. He chartered the dababeah [Nile sailing-boat] CADANCE and sailed leisurely up the Blue Nile accompanied by his doctor and valet. He reached Singa before returning down stream to Sennar where he disembarked and went on land reaching Jebel Moya in 26 January 1911 .. Jebel Moya (Gebel Moya) was a compact group of granite hilts with interconnected valleys and ridges, the entire massif having a perimeter of about eleven kilometers. After finding a profusion of stone implements Wellcome decided to start his excavations in this area. He spent the rest of the winter of 1910- 1911 establishing his excavation project (8,9).
One of the main objectives of the project was to provide the local inhabitants with profitable work. As a self-made man, Wellcome believed that indiscriminate distribution of charity was demoralizing. He wanted to give the local inhabitants, a chance to earn this charity. However, the people in that area were not used to paid employment and he was viewed with suspicion by the local chiefs. Gradually he was able to overcome these problems so that. by the end of the season he was employing 500 workers.
After the end of the first season in April 1911, Wellcome applied for a formal concession that covered the whole Anglo-Egyptian Sudan ! Understandably the Sudan Government could not. approve such a concession but granted Wellcome a Special License giving him excavation rights over Jebel Moya and a large area in the regions of the Blue Nile and the White Nile. The work of Wellcome in Jebel Moya did not find favour with many high officials in the Sudan due to the isolated and exposed position of the area. However, Wingate intervened on the side of Wollcome and wrote to Peter Drummond Conservator of Antiquities and the work proceeded forwards, with a cordial invitation from Wingate:
IMAGE :Map of Sudan showing Jebel Moya.
"1 have written to Drummond to see that all the arrangements are in good order as regards Jehel Moya and I trust you may make your mind easy on that score and that we shall have the pleasure of seeing you in the Sudan in the coming winter "(10)
Wellcome started his second excavation season in December 1911 with an optimistic note that he sent to Wingate(11):
"You will, I am sure, be pleased to learn that large numbers of people whom I trained last; year have come to me again for employment, and many more have sent, messages that they intend to join me later. Besides this, many others are coming from distant parts of the Sudan. It is gratifying to find that the training I gave them, and particularly the lesson in industrial habits have not been wasted, and from present appearances the wild spirit that prevailed when I came to Jebel Moya has given way to more peaceful attitude hide and certainly the friendly bearing of the people towards me has been all that I could desire."
Professional archeologists and anatomists were recruited by Wellcome come to supervise the work, and all the requirements in terms of equipment were catered for. The excavation work was greatly expanded, with labourers from different parts of the Sudan employed. Workshops were erected in which many of the workers were trained in crafts of carpenting , balcksmithing etc. To absorb excess labour, Wellcome started work on a huge megalithic building constructed of huge boulders, which he named the "House of Boulders'.
IMAGE: Cutting stones for the House of Boulders.
IMAGE: Dragging stones
IMAGE: Construction of the House of Boulders-1.
IMAGE: Construction of the House of Boulders-2.
IMAGE: Construction of the House of Boulders-3.
IMAGE: Inside the completed House of Boulders.
Life in the excavation camp was run on military lines with a Major Meldon as a Camp Commandant. The day was regulated with bugle calls and armed guards were mounted daily. Wellcome devised a Savings Bank System whereby part of' the earnings of each labourer were saved to him till the end of the season, these savings enabled them to go home with substantial savings for investment in agriculture and in breeding animals. Throughout his life, Wellcome held other people at arm's length. Sir Henry Dale, one of Wellcome's closest associates later wrote:
"Henry Wellcome .. was curiously lonely.. It may be doubted whether anyone knew him with sufficient intimacy to do more than speculate as to his real feelings and motives"((6)
The European workers whom Wellcome had to recruit in a hurry to catch up with the season had very little time to get acquainted with his character. Even in the loneliness of his remote settlement in Jebel Moya , Wellcome managed to keep at a distance from everyone. He ate alone in his tent while all others ate in messes. This can hardly make a man popular with his subordinates. As the s1eason was closed in April 1912, some of the Europeans employed in he camp filed a complaint to the Sudan Government against Wellcome accusing him of mistreating his Sudanese workers. That was a very sensitive issue for the British rulers who came to the Sudan raising a banner of Justice, condemning previous Turko-Egyptian misrule arid inadequate system or justice that Lead to the Mahdist uprising. As Wingate went to his summer resort in Erkowit. he left a Letter to be handed to Wellcome When he passed through Khartoum on his way to Britain after the end of the season.
... .there are some silly rumours going about regarding treatment of natives in the Excavation Camp, but I do not in the least credit them- At the same time I think it is only fair to you that. you should be made aware that there is some irresponsible talk and I dare say when you hear the details you will be able to put your finger on the cause which has led up to it. I feel confident that,had there been a word or truth in any of these silly allegations the first people to complain would have been the natives themselves, and, as far as I am aware , no complaints have reached any of the officials here in the Sennar Province or at Head Quarters " (12)
This mild letter did riot reflect the seriousness with which the government regarded this matter. On Wingate's instructions two senior government officials discussed these accusations with Wellcome as they handed him the letter. . Wellcome continued his trip to Egypt on board the Sudan Government steamer IBIS, from which he dispatched the following response to Wingate (13)
S. G. Steamer IBIS, Nubia
May 18th 1912
Dear Sir Reginald,
Your kind letter of 10th was handed to me by Col. Phipps on the 15th as I passed through Khartoum, and I am obliged to you for having me notified. I have seen Governor Taylor and Captain Butler and given them all information.
The statements you refer to are false or are such distortments of facts as to render them false, and are clear (clearly) made through malice and spite and perhaps also to cover the wrong doings of those who made them... One of the Chief Officers of the Intelligence Department was in my camp for several days and was, as they well know inspecting the native workmen and entquiring(sic) into their condition. Various other Government Officials visited the camp from time to time arid the camp Post Office was always open to them but not a word of complaint was made. My work, the improved condition of the natives and my relations with the natives speak for themselves...
The third season that started in November 1911 witnessed great expansion in the excavation activities. Larger numbers of workers were employed. Sifting machines to separate artifacts from excavated soil were installed. Light railway and tip wagon was used to remove the refuse. An aerial rope-way known as the" flying camel' was installed to transport equipment from plane to plateau. In this season Wellcome also introduced one of his innovations: aerial photography using box kite which was used for the first time in archeology.
During this season, Major J.S.Uribe joined Jebel Moya Camp. Major Uribe was an officer in the Ecuadorian army. He happened to join the wrong side in the 1910 revolution. Wellcome managed to give him safe passage out of Ecuador as a member of his expedition, thus saving his life. He later became Camp Commandant in Jebel Moya.
It seems that Wellcome assumed that his response in the previous season had satisfied the authorities in Khartoum regarding his methods of running the camp. Thus in the third season he resumed operating the camp on the same lines as before. However, this time the Acting Governor of Sennar filed an official complaint to Wingate had then to respond to Wellcome in a more direct tone than previously. (14)
Dear Mr. Wellcome,
It is with considerable diffidence that I write to you on the following subject, but I for sure you will realise it is one of importance to the Government, and also one which, in my capacity as Governor General, I cannot overlook.
I refer to the treatment of your laborers at. Gebel Moya and the system of fines and punishments instituted by you. Last. year some of your European staff thought. fit to make statements imputing to you gross ill-treatment. and cruelty to natives. I need hardly say that I never believed for a moment such statements but the fact remains that rumours of peculiar treatment of natives have been circulated in the country, and it would lead to endless trouble and annoyance if such rumours gained credence further afield. I fully appreciate the high motives by which you are actuated and your desire, by encouraging thrift and industry among your employees, to raise their moral tone and standard, but my many years experience in dealing with native questions in this country have taught met that what may at first sight seem desirable is not always possible to carry out. The two points which have been brought to my notice are:
1. System of payment. I understand you have a system by which you pay a labourer a small sum at the end of each week, and the balance due to him at the end of the season. The reason for this is obvious, hut such an arrangement is contrary to the custom of this country and liable to be misunderstood. It would therefore suggest that you should in future institute a system of weekly payments by which a man draws all that has earned at the end of each week.
2 . Punishments and fines. The native of the Sudan is very quick at grasping the meaning of law and order and the punishments which an offender will incur for various offences are generally known throughout the country. Any variations from such punishments must inevitably lead to misconception end very likely to charges of ill- treatment. Your best. plan therefore would he to immediately discharge any labourer whose conduct or work was unsatisfactory, paying him the full wages due to him up to the date of discharge. Judging from the reports, which I have received regarding the happy and prosperous condition of your little settlement, I expect that a man so discharged would return very shortly in a chastened mood seeking re-employment. More serious offences should be referred at once to the nearest Marnur [administrative assistant] or Inspector.
I trust that you will appreciate the reasons, which have induced me to write to you on this matter and that you will be able, without much inconvenience, to institute a new system which will effectually prevent the recurrence of such unpleasant charges however inaccurate they may be. Hoping that. You are in good health and with my best wishes for a successful season.
Be1ieve me,
Yours sincerely,
P. Wirgate
P.S. I am writing this on the representation of the Acting Governor, Sennar Province, who has again brought the matter to my notice.
Wellcome was disappointed for what he saw as misrepresentation of this work in Jebel Moya especially now that Wingate, whom he considered as a close ally, seemed to question his methods. James Currie (Director of Ecucation, SG) visited Jebel Moya and sent his first impressions to Wingate: (15)
PRIVATE
EDUCATION DEPARTMENT,
DIRECTOR'S OFFICE,
Khartoum 10 th March 1913
My Dear General,
1. I have seen Mr Wellcome and I think all will go well. He is, I think a little hurt that you (in his opinion) attached credence to statements and declined to give him your authority for them, but this is passing away. In any case Drummond Hays withdrawal is sufficiently abject. But , ill as he was at the time, he felt the accusations very keenly, more keenly than would have been under ordinary circumstances.
2. It would have been much easier for me to deal with Mr Wellcome if I had been informed how matters stood. I have no right or claim to be so unless I am employed in some sense as an intermediary, but, if I am, and am to have a chance of doing good, I think I ought to be put in possession of all the facts.
3. He has got 1100 men working there, and an obviously competent English staff. Duncan MacKenzie formerly second in command to Sir Arthur Evans in Crete, has just arrived and is opening up a second site on the hill. MacKenzie's reputation as a scholar is almost world wide, certainly of the very highest rank. The real point at issue is to determine the nature and limits of this Ethiopic culture and then to see what its connection is, (a) with Egypt, (b) conceivably with the Mediterranean basin . Of course if such connection were clearly established, a revolution in accepted thought on the subject would be brought about and the whole matter would arouse an incalculable amount of interest .
4. The work at Jebel Moya is going on admirably the houses are more than half finished, and the 1100 workmen as happy as can be.
5. Mr Wellcome proposes to take an unappropriated tract of land, clear it of "Kitr" and grow "dura" for his men, on model dry farming principles, in order to avoid any possible trouble in the future.
6.This leads me to the point that Mr Wellcome wants two things- an extension of the time of his concession, and, though he will not ask for it, the gift of Jebel Moya! He wants, I think , to be buried there, even as Cecil Rhodes rests in the Mataoppos (sic) , and he will bequeath all the buildings, etc. on it to the Government after his death.
7. I would like you to see him before he goes and talk it all over, as it is not too Late to enrol him as warm ally, and it is worth the trouble. From any point of view, as educator of the wildest natives (and the wilder he gets them the more he likes it) he is worth anything to us. And it must be forgotten that he spends £6000 a year on wages, and practically compels the natives to invest them properly.
8. But if the most is to be made of him, you must see him, and spontaneously offer him one or two things - things that as a matter of fact are not worth a milleme to us.
9. I have informed him of Lord Kitchener 's decision confirmed by the letter to you of which you sent me a copy, that the £500 annually for publication is to be found after two years, i.e. at the beginning of 1915, arid am sending him an excerpt from Minute, so far as it deals with that question. I hope you are having a good journey. Yours very sincerely,
JAMES CURRIE
In spite of the reconciliatory attitude of Currie, Rudolf Slatin who was holding the office of Inspector General held a strong stand against Wellcome . He saw his growing influence in the area as a threat to the authority of the government as he wrote to Wingate:
" I still cannot forget the letter which Drummond Hayes wrote to Wellcome - and think it. would have been fair to tell me that Currie was sent to Jebel Moya. I saw him on his return and he confessed that he was quite ignorant with facts and he has not seen any correspondence or telegrams concerning former complaints from W. - He saw only the outsides and was justly satisfied that W. has about 1000 workmen and Dinka women for which he leaves thousands of pounds in the country. The Indenture or how you call the contracts which every man has to sign is illegal- as it appoints him G.G. [Governor General] over Jebel Moya. I quite understand that you try to make him happy to get something out from him in the future too- but we have to think that if things will be known to public we may be very severely criticized."(16)
In the end, it seemed that Wingate did not want to loose Wellcome and he it to time to mend the damage in the relationship between Wellcome with the Sudan Government. He conveyed his opinion in a letter he sent to Currie:
I was much interested in the various Letters you have sent in dealing with your visit to Jebel Moya. You have no doubt seen Slatin on the subject and, as you know, he holds very strong views on the Drummond Hay incident,. On the whole, therefore, I have not thought it desirable to ask Mr Wellcome to come to Erkowit and even had I done so I think in all probability it would not have suited him to come so far out of his way. In any circumstances I think that you have had a calming influence on his much over-wrought nerves and I hope that with rest outside the Sudan and temporary cessation from his labours, he will forget the irritation which I think his health condition has tended to exaggerate, and will return to the Sudan just as keen and as helpful an enthusiast of yore. (17)
HSW looking over the village of Jebel Moya
IMAGE: Jebel Moya Excavation Camp.
IMAGE: Jebel Moya Excavation Camp.
IMAGE: Jebel Moya Excavation Camp.
The fourth season started in early November 1913 and ended in late April 1914. Wellcome brought a motor car, the only one in the Sudan except the Governor General's which was, up to that time, called in the Sudan "the One and Only". During this season the activity of the excavation camp reached its peak. More than 4000 labourers were employed in Jebel Moya . Wellcome made it a rule that no applicant should be turned away . The Camp Commandant had to find suitable work for each applicant, including the handicapped who were assigned to appropriate jobs like mending baskets or cutting grass for building huts. O. G. Crawford , who joined the camp as an archeologist during this season was aware of the reserved attitudes towards Wellcome but it seems that he had no doubts about his motives as he later wrote:
" He [Henry Wellcome] was first and foremost philanthropist and his work in the Sudan had philanthropy rather than archeology as its main object..(18)
Wellcome applied strict rules on his European employees as well as other workers. While some regarded these as encroachment on personal freedoms, others like Crawford accepted these rules asa part of Wellcome's character:
"..one of his hobbies was teetotalism, alcohol was strictly forbidden in the camp, and in the very onerous contract that every member of the expedition had to sign was a clear clause forbidding the consumption of alcohol while in his employment."(18)
In this context it should be noted that in those days over-indulgence in alcohol was a known hazard for Europeans working in the colonies. It was not unusual for employers to impose restrictions on the consumption of alcohol. For example , one particular British company operating in West Africa seemed chiefly interested in the sobriety of its applicants and one clause of its contract with the employee was that he .."..would not indulge in alcohol or liquor save at meals or with the express permission of the company's medical attendant " (19)
Wellcome's welfare work had a significant impact on the local inhabitants of Jebel Moya. Besides the European and Egyptian workers, the camp gave home to people from different Sudanese tribes from different parts of the country and with different languages, habits and creeds, including devout Muslim nomadic tribes as well as animists from the equatorial regions of the Sudan It was not an easy task to keep such a heterogeneous group in harmony as he managed to do. In his small settlement he encouraged temperance among the Sudanese labourers and provided efficient sanitary and medical services. He carried an afforestation project in the area, built; roads and introduced improved methods for farming, built a model village in Jebel Moya with a mosque and a school. He built a "hafir" [ artificial reservoir for rain water] to provide water for the people and animals in the neighbouring villages. Being in charge of these schemes and the employer of virtually everybody in the area, Wellcome easily earned the title of Al-Pasha given to him by the local inhabitants. Wellcome left Jebel Moya at the end of the fourth season in April 1914. As events were to prove , that was his last visit to the Sudan. He was prevented by the 1914-1918 war, but afterwards did not manage to revisit the Sudan. Yet, he never relinquished his excavation rights and continued to assert that, his excavation work was suspended but not abandoned.
Year after year he sent Mr. Uribe to maintain the camp and supervise the welfare projects until 1938, two years after the death Sir Henry Wellcome when the camp reverted to the Sudan Government.
IMAGE: Uribe in The House of Boulders.
In the vast featureless plane of Gezira, the sight of the massif of Jebel Moya appears suddenly like an eruption. The village of Jebel Moya is not different from other villages of the area. Among the hills the House of Boulders stands as monument of Sir Henry Wellcome. It is abandoned and all the fittings were removed. However, its walls look as durable as the granite from which its boulders were dragged.
In the village of Jebel Moya legends are still abound about the Pasha that once reigned over the hills, served by the jinn. The excavation sites are littered with pot shreads and pieces of bonee and there are piles of debris where tons of excavated soil were processed by the sifting machines . There are also legendary stories of 'burmas' full of gold , excavated by the Pasha and shipped away .Certainly, no one would have believed that the grand Pasha was digging the hills looking for bones and pot shreds.
IMAGE: The House of Boulders now.
IMAGE: A rare picnic to the house of Boulders
IMAGE: The excavations site now
IMAGE: It is almost a century since the Pasha stood here!
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REFERENCES:
1:Reginald Wingate to Wellcome, 4/11/1933 . The Contem porary Medical Archives Centre.
2:Gorgas Memorial Laboratory: Hearings before the Committee on Foreign Affairs, House of Representatives, Seventieth Congress,first session on H.R. 8128 to authorize a permanent annual appropriation for the maintenance and operation of the Gorgas Memorial Laboratory.
3:Currie, J. The educational experiment in the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan,1900-1933, Journal of the African Society.London
4:Gordon Memorial College Board of Trustees, Minutes Book, The Sudan Archives, Durham University ( SAD) 572/5/61.
5: Wellcome H S (1912) Remains of primitive Ethiopian races discovered in the southern Sudan. Appendix II.In: Addison F , The Wellcome Excavations in the Sudan. Vol I: Gebel Moya (text), Oxford University Press,1949:263-267.
6: Turner H . Henry Wellcome: The Man, his Collection and Legacy.London :The Wellcome Trust and Heinemann,1980: 1-96
7: Wingate to Grost,4/12/1908 SAD264/4/15
8::John Symons . 1991. The benevolent autocrat. Wellcome Journal 6:8-11.
9: Addison F , The Wellcome Excavations in the Sudan. Vol I: Gebel Moya (text), Oxford University Press, 1949:1-12.
10: Wingate to Wellcome 16/5/1911 SAD 300/5/89
11:Wellcome to Wingate 29/12/1911 SAD 301/6/155
12:Wingate to Wellcome 10/5/1912, SAD 181/2/83
13:Wellcome to Wingate 18/5/1912 ,SAD 181/2/167:
14:Wingate to Wellcome 1/12/1912 , SAD 183/3/11-13
15:Currie to Wingate 10/3/1913, SAD 185/3/48-49.
16:Slatin to Wingate 21/3/1913 SAD 185/3/92.
17:Wingate to Currie 4/4/1913 SAD 186/1/60
18: Crawford O.G.S: Said and Done: The autobiography of an archeologist . Weidefeld and Nicolson . London,1955:1-316.
19: Allen C . Tales From the Dark Continent. MacDonald Futura Publishers Ltd., London, 1979: 1-200.
OTHER WELLCOME LINKS:
Hard Sell ,Sunday Times 1994
Biography of Henry Wellcome
The Burrough Wellcome Fund
Wellcome Institute for the History of Medicine
The Long View From The Watonwan River .The Millenarian Odyssey of Pioneer Druggist Henry Wellcome . By William Hoffman
Sir Heny Wellcome, University of Wales, Swansea
The Wellcome Library
Sir Henry Wellcome Medal and Prize
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نازك..
كدة اقرى الإقتباس دة تانى.. انا غايتو اعتبرته زول حرامى سرق آثار، ومهما عمل لن يكفر عن خطاياه إلا احفاده يرجعوا المسروقات دى لاصحابها "السودان"..
author John
Symons (who works for the
trust at Euston Road),
awkwardly revealed that as
Jebel Moya was stripped of
artefacts (which dated
from between 1,000 and
400BC), they were not
carefully inspected and
catalogued, but were
merely dumped in
basements until ten years
after Henry Wellcome died
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: ombadda)
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سلامى للجميع
ناريخياًثابت وجود مقر أعلى جبل موية لوالد أو جد الأميرة آن ... ولو تذكرون فى زيارتها للسودان حرصت على زيارة جبل موية ....
لا زالت بعض المبانى قائمة وهى مبنية بالحجر بنفس طريقة بناء السكة حديد ... حيث تمر السكة حديد جنوب الجبل فى طريقها إلى كوستى.
هنالك شارع مُعبّد من أسفل الجبل لأعلاه يسمح بمرور سيارة ... أو الإنتقال المريح بالأقدام.... شخصياً زرت هذا المكان وطلعت الجبل- راجلاً-
وشاهدت مبانى - لا زالت قائمة- وأرجِّح أن هنالك صورة لتلك المبانى التى اٌقيمت على منطقة منبسطة أعلى الجبل.... وخاصة صورة الواقف أعلى
الجبل.
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: أبوبكر أبوالقاسم)
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في الفيدو الثاني نلاحظ وجود ناس يغربلو في التراب ...هذا ربما يعني هنالك بحث عن الذهب ..اضافة للآثار التي تتضح في نفس الصور..
المتحف البريطاني اليوم مليئ بالاثار السودانية والمصرية التي سرقوها فترة الاستعمار...
تلاحظ ايضا وجود الناس تعمل بطريقة يمكن تشبيهها بالسخرة ( مجموعة من الناس تسير في شكل صفوف كل يحمل قفة على رأسه أو يديه) وهنالك ماستر يحضهم على الاسراع ... بينقلوا في تراب وحجارة ..
حضرت فيلم وثائقي في التلفزيون الكندي يوثق لفترة دخول الانجليز الى كندا واحتلالهم لثروات السكان الاصليين ..كانت هنالك اعمال مشابهة صنعت كبار الشركات البريطانية الكبرى في المجالات المختلفة ...
هذا الفيدو يحتاج لتحليل من متخصصين بالاستعانة بالكتب والوثائق البريطانية ...
باتأكيد الانجليز ما مدو خط سكة حديد عشان عيون اهلنا مدوها ليصلوا الى الثروات ويوصلوها الى الميناء ...
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: عمار عبدالله عبدالرحمن)
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الرابط الذى أدرجه الأخ عمار به معلومات جد خطيرة:
عملية التنقيب عن الآثار التى جرت فى منطقة جبل موية تعتبر أكبر عميلة تنقيب قامت بها بريطانيا فى شمال شرق أفريقيا. عدد الجثامين التى تم استخراجها قريبة من ال 2800..
Overall, close on 2800
graves were excavated
(2792 according to Frank
Addison, 2791 from my
determinations; 1 grave
record was duplicated by
Addison), though more
were recorded (2883),
making it one of the
largest British excavations
ever undertaken in
North-East Africa.
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: ombadda)
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فيديو مدهش ومعلومات من اعضاء المنبر مدهشة ورائعة
واضم صوتي لصوت اسامة البلال والبحث مجددا عن مثل هذه الفديوهات التي تروي كثيرا من تاريخ السودان الماضي والمعاصر. والتحية كذلك لـ ombada لهذه المعلومات الوفيرة والممتعة..
واذا بحث البعض عن تاريخ هنري ويلكم واين ولد واين نشأ واين ذهب بعد مغادرته السودان واين توفي فسوف نجد عند ورثته او احفاده الكثير مما يتعلق بفترة وجوده في السودان..
وسؤال اخير عن تاريخ السودان: وبما ان الفيديو تم تصويره عام 1912 م فعاوزين نعرف من هو الذي كان حاكما للسودان في ذلك العام وكم كانت محافظات السودان او اقاليمه وكيف كانت تتم ادارة هذه الاقاليم ومن هم حكامها؟ وهل هناك كتاب به تفاصيل دقيقة عن تلك الفترة .. واذا كانت المدة منذ تلك الفترة وحتى الان هي 100 سنة فلا شك ان هناك احياء ألان عاصروا تلك الفترة وربما كانوااطفال صغار في ذلك الوقت ولكن العقل الباطني يحتفظ بكثير من الاشياء التي تحصل عند الطفولة.. واذا في واحد من الأعضاء بيعرف واحد معمر من اقاربه يسأل لينا عن معيشتهم في ذلك الزمان..
وفي الحقيقة بعض الأعضاء هنا قالوا الحقيقة عندما اشاروا ان الصور التي شاهدوها في ذلك الفيديو لا تبتعد كثيرا عن ما هو حاصل في بعض مناطق السودان في القرى النائية...
والله يديكم العافية
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: اميرة السيد)
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فعلا يا أميرة السيد دة تاريخ قريب ولا زال هناك شهود عيان يمكن أن يحكوا عن آبائهم.."قال أبى عن جده بأن ...."
لدى عم من مواليد العام 1910s توفاه الله قبل عامين. كانت فكرتى هى تسجيل لقاءات معه على نمط أسماء فى حياتنا إلا أنى تكاسلت إلى أن وافته المنية وإلى أن مات كان فى كامل وعيه ولم يصاب بالخرف. كم من أمثاله على قيد الحياة؟ "قال أبى عن حده أن أبا جده.."
ممكن دة يكون مشروع توثيقى للمهتمين بالتاريخ وبالتوثيق.. أجهزة تسجيل أم بى ثرى وشباب متحمس..
نرجع لى اللص ويلكوم وحكاية السبترين cotrimexathol
أنتهى من قراية المقال عن الموضوع وارجع ليكم..
:-)
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: ملهم كردفان)
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الاخ د. امبدة
تحياتي
لا اعتقد ان في الامر عبودية
ولكن ويلكم من زمن اخر و ثقافة اخرى
فقد اعجب بالبلاد وقرر ان يتعاطف مع سكانها فقد حضر عام 1900 و البلاد تعاني اثار الحرب بعد الاحتلال واثر فيه جدا ان سكان قرية ما كانوا يساعدون سكان القرية الاخرى المرضى رغم عداوتهم المتوارثة (انظر المقال)
كذلك خلفيته و نشأته و محاولة سابقة له ان يكون رجل دين و مشاركته وهو صغير في الحرب ضد الهنود الحمر في الغرب الوسط التي صنعت شرخا في وجدانه
لكن لن نفصل ذلك من حلمه الامريكي بالثروة و الذي حققه وياللعجب في لندن - انجلترا
هنري ويلكم عندما حضر للسودان كان قد اصبح ثرياً بالفعل ولم يحقق ارباحا تذكر بل كان منفقاً كريماً وكان هذا لب صداقته مع ونجت
فمعسكر جبل موية كانت اعداد العمال فيه تزداد سنويا من بضع مئات الي الالاف وقد كسب ثقتهم بعد وقت وجيز وكان يدفع اجرا الا انه كان يحتجز جزء من الاجر الي نهاية الموسم ليأخذه العامل الي اسرته ( وهو عمل قد نراه لا اخلاقي الان لكن في زمنه لا نستطيع ان نلومه فقد كان غالبية الاوروبيون ينظرون للسكان الاصليين بأنهم اصغر من ان يديروا شأنهم تلك كانت ثقافة شائعة وكانوا يعتقدون انهم يحسنون صنعا بهذه الاشكال من الوصاية ) يكفي كمثال ان استراليا و كندا لم تتتوقف عن عزل اطفال السكان الاصليين في مدارس داخلية عن اهلهم الا في اواخر الستينات من القرن العشرين خشية ان يتعلموا الثقافات الاصلية (المتخلفة في نظرهم ) والحكومتان الان تدفعان تعويضات مهولة عن الشروخ النفسية التي احدثها القرار.
هنري قام بالاتي:
1- اسس معسكرا منظما للعمل ودفع اجورا و سكناً و طعاماً و خدمات صحية و اصحاح لبيئة المعسكر
2- حرم الخمر حتى على موظفيه الاجانب
3- قبل طلب كل من تقدم للعمل حتى ولو لم يكن يحتاجه وكان يرفض ان يرد احداً واستفاد من العمالة لزائدة في بناء بيت كبير (لا يحتاجه) ولكن فقط ليوفر فرص عمل ..و يبدو انه كان يرف ان يقدم معونة الا مقابل اجر وهي فلسفة مقبولة اخلاقياً
4- اقام المنافسات الرياضية و الترفيهية للعاملين (سباقات جري)
5- علم العمال مهارات مهنية (البناء و النجارة)
هنري واجه عداوة مريرة من الموظفين الاجانب في الحكومة المحلية وقدموا شكاوي ضده ل ونجت باشا الذي اضطر في النهاية للحد من حريته في ادارة معسكره
كان الشكاوي تتلخص في ان نظام العقوبات و الاحتفاظ بجزء من الاجر غير عادلة و غير مقبولة في بلد خرج للتو من حرب كان سببها الثورة على الظلم في القرن التاسع عشر
رد هنري ويلكم في خطاب لونجت ان اصحاب الشان سعيدين وراضين و ان هذا ليس الا كيداً من الاوربيين
مع ذلك لكني لا زلت اتفق معك يا دكتور ان الموضوع يحتاج لدراسة اجتماعية و تاريخية متعمقة من المؤسسات العلمية قبل الحكم على الرجل ( يا حبذا لو شارك طلاب كليات الاقتصاد واقسام علم الاجتماع و الانثربولوجيا و القانون في دراسة تجربة جبل موية)
وان كنت اميل الا انه كان انساناً صالحاً لكنه كان يفكر بادوات زمانه واظن (ظن فقط) ان حكومة الحكم الثنائي لجات للتضييق عليه حتى لا يصنع طبقة عاملة مدركة وواعية بقيم مثل المساواة و الاجر مقابل العمل وربما خافوا ان يشكل هذا المعسكر الكبير نواة حركة عمالية فكل توجيهاتهم كانت تتلخص في ضرورة تغيير نظام الاجر و نظام العقوبات ولا توجد سخرة فقد اتوا بمحض ارادتهم للعمل.
ساهم معسكر جبل موية في نشر ثقافة العمل الموسمي الذي كان عماد المشاريع الزراعية في السودان ( الجزيرة - مصانع السكر....الخ)
ساهمت المعامل التي اسسها ويلكم في وضع السودان مبكرا في خارطة البحث العلمي الطبي و خدمت هذه المعامل كلية غردون و مدرسة كتنشر الطبية و السلطات في توفير المياه الامنة وكان دورها كبيرا في مرض الحمى الصفراء و توصيف اعراضه .
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اشد ما اعجبني في القصة انه عند انشاء معمل الطب المداري قبل مائة عام الذي تبرع به ويلكم ترددت الحكومة واجلت القبول بالتبرع السخي الذي بلغ 15000 جنيه استرليني لعدم وجود ميزانية تسيير للمعمل و قدرها 800 جنيه استرليني سنويا
ولم توافق الا بعد ان تكفل ويلكم ب400 جنيه سنويا و تكفلت حكومة السودان بالباقي
لازلنا حتى اليوم نسير المعامل البحثية بالبركة ولم نفكر في ميزانية اي معمل بعد الفصل الاول.
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: Nazik Eltayeb)
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دكتورة نازك
اتتبع في موضوع الآثار المكتشفة في منطقة جبل موية ,, في بحثي لم اجد اي اشارة
لاي نوع من الآثار عدى الجثث المكتشفة وبعض الفخــار
هل هذا كل ما وجد في موقع اثرى بهذه الضخامة تبقت منه الاثار الفخارية ,
هل لنا ان نسأل اين بقية الآثار (المعدنية تحديدا)
لا توجد في المتاحف (حسب تتبعى في النت لاغلب المتاحف المتوفرة في النت)
ده يضع علامة كبيرة شك كبيرة ,,,,
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Re: فيديو يعرض لاول مرة على SudaneseOnline حياة السودانيين سنة 1912 (Re: عمار عبدالله عبدالرحمن)
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اخي الاستاذ عمار
اتفق معك ان هناك اساءة تمت لهذه الاثار اشار اليها د. امبدة في الاقتباس اعلاه وذلك بانها لم تصنف الا بعد وفاة هنري ولكم بعشر سنوات و بقيت طيلة هذا الوقت مهملة في قبو ما
وانا اعتقد ان معسكر البحث عن الاثار لم يكن هدفه ايجاد اثار و انما كان ويلكم يجرب طريقه ما في الادارة ربما
او ربما كان يرضى غرورا شخصيا بالتحكم في حياة كل هولاء الناس وهو مؤمن تماماُ بانه جاء لاخراجهم م الجهل وا لفقر والعوز كبعض الاستعماريين المؤمنين بدور الرجل الابيض في ذلك الوقت لهذا قلت انه كان حسن النية
الاجتمال الثاني ربما كان ويلكم مهوساً بالبحث عن اصل الانسان الابيض كما ورد في بعض المقالات و اظن انه يبحث عن اشياء او دلائل معينة لهذا لم يهتم بما وجد من بقايا وربما يبرر هذا الوضع الغريب الكائن في ان حجم الاستثمار في هذا الموقع لا يناسب مطلقا مع اهمال الاثار و هذا امر في غاية الغرابة
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ياخي مالكم انت و امبدة دايرين تشككوني في الراجل بعد الشكر دا كلو
اسي بديت اشك انه مستخدم الناس دي حقل تجارب لبعض الادوية التي ينتجها و المعسكر كان غطاء... لكنها تبقى مجرد شكوك و لا دليل ولابد من البحث في قصة معسكر جبل موية وكل شاردة وواردة فيه بوساطة متخصصين
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بكرى ابوبكر
سامى عبد المطلب
عمار عبدالله عبدالرحمن
مجاهد محمد الهادي
محمد عبد الماجد الصايم
ombadda
فتحي عباس نقد
اسماعيل عبد الله محمد
أسامة البلال
الصادق محمد احمد
Kostawi
محمد عوض السيد
سامى عبدالله
Nazik Eltayeb
أبوبكر أبوالقاسم
القلب النابض
ملهم كردفان
فيس بوك
تويتر
انستقرام
يوتيوب
بنتيريست