Question for medicine specialist.....

salam alaikum....
i'm fresh graduated medical student,would like to ask you just few questions...
1.is it possible to apply for your medical specialty(eg cardiology)befor you make your internship?
2.what is Master, PhD degree in medicine
3.do you know any european country which offer medicine specialty scholarships?..
thanks in advance...

Dear zolo
I am not a medical professional,
but I searched the internet for some United Kingdom scholarships in medicine speciality
and found the following results:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:2X2yaK7SkPoJ:www...y+scholarships&hl=en

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:TakbjS6gSngJ:www...y+scholarships&hl=en

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:IFtdJitbHu4J:www...y+scholarships&hl=en

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:tOfwlNhZKcQJ:www...y+scholarships&hl=en

al salam alaikum Dear Adil Osman..
thanks alot for your help i deeply apreciate that.

what about Germany, France or Australian Univ...which offer medicine specialty scholarships?

دعوة من أعماقي للتصافي ..العفو والعافية

Any other options?

خالص التحايا..
zolo
يمكننى ان اقدم بعض المعلومات ..
اتمنى ان اقوم بالمساعده على اكمل وجه..
لك ودى..
معتز تروتسكى

salam
thanks very much Dear Mutaz for your help...
i sent you an e-mail check it out..
waiting your answer soon!

الأخ : zolo.............

حاليا في ألمانيا التسجيل مفتوح بالنسبه للتخصص في الطب
ولكن بالغه الألمانيه

في مجالات علميه أخرى الباب مفتوح في فرنسا والدنمارك فممكن يكون الطب أحدها

وشكرا

مهدي الأمين

salaaaaaaaam
thanks Mahdi Alamin
I wish if you can provide me with the necessary informations regarding the admission, in the field of medicine specialty in Germany(cardiology)....thanks alot...waiting your answer

Dear Zolo. I suggest you subsribe to our medics list and then you can post your questions. I am sure many of our colleages will offer you good advice. If you are intersted you can e mail me: [email protected]. Ineed to know some iformationslike year og graduation, current post and the e mail you want to use.

Dr Mahady Alamin..
it's my pleasure to subscripes to medics list,
you just tell me how can i proceed.
i will send you an e-mail right now...
thanks

Sorry Dr Abdalla Ali Abdalla

Dear Zolo
this is if you are thinking of comming to UK.

www.gmc-uk.org

it is a difficult start and you have to go through many exams but at the end you will get proper training and will have registration at one of the royal colleges which are recognized world wide and most of all you will get paid as you are training..
take care and wish you all the best

Thanks WAD BALLAL..
i will try all the options and take the best Inshalla...

Salamat WAD BALLAL...
just can't open the link above!!!!

خالص التحايا..
zolo
ارسلت لك رساله ارجو ان تكون شافيه وان لديك اى مزيد من الاستفسارات حبابك100000000000000000000000

Alakh alhabeeb Mutaz..
shokran liek kateeeeeeer, wo rabana ygdrna 3la rd aljmeeel..
i really appreciate that..
thanks indeed brother!

Salaaaaaaaaaaaaam!!!
Anybody tryed to apply for scholarship through DAAD((GERMAN EXCHANGE SERVICE)?

UP FOR ME DEAR zolo

Salam Dr-Mutaz,
thanks you wajeeeeh for all the informations you provided,keep it up..
Dr:Abdalla Ali Abdalla, still waiting to hear from you!

up!

Ya Amer. I saw you have been added to the list. I thought you will write to the list and tell them exactly what you want. From what you mentioned so far, you wanted to do something in Cardiology. Unfortunately, in the USA or UK/Ireland you have to pass through Internal Medicine or Pediatric Residency before you settle in Cardiology. Write to me privately and tell me exactly what you want. I can fix you with an attachment in UK or Ireland either in Internal Medicine or Pediatrics. You have to realize that the road is difficult and you are a young doctor. You might have to work without a payed salary for some time before you get your first job. Also you have to pass some examinations before you get registered.Ithink Dr Einas(Zola123 would be very helpful to you, because she is in touch with a young Doctors group in the UK. As for the USA, it is a totally differnt issue. If you are currently holding a payed job, hold on to it and try to pass the qualifying USMLE examinations from there before you decide to move.I see the other members gave you good informations about specializations in Europe, which I don't know much about. You can call me for more details. Just remember, withhard work, you can do what ever you want and you have to climb the ladder from its first step.

Dear Zolo,
You asked

Quote: 2.what is Master, PhD degree in medicine

Master and PhD are academic qualifications, ulike speciality which is a professional qualification.
The difference is that academic qualification will entilte you to work in academic institutions like universities,in addition to all institutions dealing with research, including medical industries ( Pharmacietical companies, medical equipments... etc), while professional qualification will qualify you for the speciality you are interested in.
That means, having a PhD in cardilogy-related field does not make you a cardiologist, as you still need the training needed for that speciality. You can in fact get a PhD in any other thing than your field of speciality (including basic science) and have a clinical speciality in the same time. However, the majority prefer to get thier PhD in the same field as this tends to promote their carrier. Remember a PhD-holder stands stronger if there is competion about a job.

Tip: As you are young, I would recommend that you start with a PhD if you are interested in making carrier in Western Euorope. While doing your PhD, you can learn the language and sit for the required exams, as it is the requirements in most european states.
As far as I know, there is no place where you can just come and start your speciality traing, as you have to have a resistence permit first. In the UK you can get a visa to sit for exams. Once you have entered the UK, you can start seeking attachment and even jobs -which you most likely woundn`t get before having references in the UK- and hence the attachment.

Good luck

aymen

I see Alakh Aymen gave you very good advice too. Starting with a Master or a PhD is an excellent option, provided you have the means to suuport your self, because in most of the cases your are not payed at all or perhaps underpayed. This is the approach followed by many chinese Doctors who come to the USA. Thses are very hard working folks. They can find a side work, like doing Pizza delivery in their spare time. This, like what Dr Aymen said, will help them learn the language and later, when they start their residency, backed with an Academic degree, will greatly inhance their chances of getting into the Residecy Program they wanted. In Europe, as far as I remember from my days over there, you can't work with your student,
Exam, or visitor's Visa. First, you have to decide where you want to go. For the UK, you get registered to the GMC through a double sponser program if you want to avoid the PlAB test, at leat this was the case in the past. I am sure the members of the Medics list will help you a lot in that regrd. The Irish Medical council, I heared, now a days, also requires somthing similar to the Plab. I feel this dicussion will be greatly appreciated if you start addressing it in the Medics list, because many of the members hold senior posts in UK and Ireland. Best of Luck.

ALakh al dr:Abdalla ALI ABDALLA,WALLAHI i really don't know how to thank you, anyway thanks indeed for all the informations.
,I didn't post a topic in your website,inspite of my registeration just because i didn't know where exactly to post it, anyway in the coming days i will write to you accurately what i want.
Brother Aymen,shokran liek kateer for the explanation that is exactly what i wanted to know, Allah ydeek alsahha wo al3afia..
wo jazakum ALLAH kul khier