A Civilized Request to All Honorable members

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you

Dear : Mustafa

I AGREE 100%

THANKS ALOT

KHIDIR A. Almanan

thank you brother we need more people to sign up for this as if you sign you will not join them

i think Iam lucky to get some one in your caliber to agree
I invite you to join me here to ask all to join in please help in any way you think appropriate to see this project through

WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A DOCUMENT FOR ALL NOT TO ABUSE THIS SPACE SO PLESDE JOIN IN AND SHOW TOUR SUPPORT
BY THE WAY I DO NOT HAVE A SIDE TO SUPPORT HERE REMEBER IAM VERY NEW HERE

DR MUSTAFA MAHMOUD

WHERE ARE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH FIGHTERS???????////

ٍSalam Dr Mustafa

I support your plea, but we also have to face it: we are not civilized enough to use this forum appropriately, that's the truth. Decades of fighting, blood shed, and millions of deaths all attest to this. That ugly side of Sudan that's soaked in prejudice, hatred, and intolerance is welll reflected in our virtual world, just like it is in real life

This place is nothing but a sample of the Sudanese society - if there's such thing- with all that it entails. To expect this board to be any different at this point in time is a form of unrealistic optimism (being hopeful is certainly good though

Our discussions, agreements, and disagreements may become civilized one day, but only when we become civilized as a society and as a nation

It's a much bigger job, I'm afraid

Regards to you and respect for rejecting the status quo

Dear NAJWAN
your response is fantastic, that is why i support every word of your reply. but remember we have to start to learn how to be civilised other wise we will never be
i do agree we had enough since 30/6/1989 but these people lasted long because some of us ran away and let them steal and destroy the whole country .
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa

I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU

BUT WHO WILL CONVINCE THOSE ADDICTED TO SUCH DISGRACEFUL BEHAVIOR

dear brother
we can only try and keep trying
there is an English saying

YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK
if we want to be civilised we have to be tolerant and accept each other point of view

Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

Salam again Dr. Mustafa

I agree with you, we have to learn and take the effort... change is worth it

What I tried to say is that it's a big task. The values you called for are much needed, though they need to be coming from within, they need to be sincerely fostered and endorsed
by each individual in our society - virtual and other wise-, or else the issue becomes short-lived and one of utter facade

I hope to see more of the good examples on this forum, some of whom are rather disappointed to point of becoming detached

dear Najwan
i got your message loud and clear. keep the good work
change need people like you who carry these ideas to implement it
your articles contains fantastic terminology about change which made me wished i have met
you 1999 when i was doing a master degree in change and innovation at york university

may god bless you
mustafa

Quote: stop these personal fights

dear brother
it gives me great pleasure to support what you wrote.
if we really look for a new Sudan we need to grow up as a nation and to learn to respect each others wrights
long live new Sudan
dr.Mustafa Mahmoud

د. مصطفى
لك ألف تحية
ندعم هذا الإقتراح وبشدة
ونتمنى لك التوفيق في هذا المسعى الحميد
وربنا يهدي الجميع لما يحب ويرضى
ممكن لهذا المنبر أن يكون وسيلة من وسائل التغيير إلى الأحسن لوطنا العزيز
ولك تحياتي

Dear osama and dear Osman malik

thank you very much for your contributuion and with people like you we attain our goals of respect and tolerance
akhoukom mustafa

Dear brother Dr. Mustafa

I certainly support your call for a civilized forum. This forum is shared with non-Sudanese, hence it is very sad indeed to reflect the negative part of our innated and highly valued Sudanese characters.
Cordially,
Gaafar.

dear Gaafar Ismail
it gives me great pleasure to support what you wrote.
if we really look for a civilised Sudan we need to grow up as a nation and to learn to respect each others wrights
long live new Sudan
dr.Mustafa Mahmoud


respect and tolerance is pour new motto here

Dr. Mustafa
Thanks so much for your goodwill message. may i suggest a better way to stop personal fights?
let us boycot those posts. completely ignore them till the people take their personal fights to their personal e-mails. As long as we keep visiting them they will continue becasue our visits mean that there is demand for nonesense.
You can preach till you are blue in the face but addiction to this stuff cannot be treated by soft talking there has to be an action.
I never visit any of those posts if the subject line is telling what is awaiting me inside and if the subject is deceiving it is one visit and i am done.
Boycot Do not Ask
thanks again.

dear Asma
thank you very much for your support
your suggestion to boycott the
posts which contain personal insults is very reasonable, but the question is how do you know without the first visit that it contains personal insults?
our aim here is not to ignore these personal insults but to stop them completely.

the best way is that we need to learn to respect each other and have some tolerance for the other view
god bless you
dr Mustafa Mahmoud

Dr. Mustafa
First of all let me take this opportuinty to wellcomed you to this board and secondly thank you so much for your initiative proposal which I am fully support it, even though I agree with Najwan when she mentioned ( The place is nothing but a sample of the Sudanese Society ) the only thing I can say, we should take our discussions and disagreements to a higher level of understanding and respect other people opinions even if we are not in favaour of it and not make it personal issues to criticized and fight, and if we adhere to this methods and place our thoughts and ideas properly then the board will be better for all of us

thank you once again

Dear Adam
thank you very much for supporting my proposal i hope we will be able to put forward a clean healthy forum for all of us .
we would like to promote respect and tolerance
god bless all the Sudan
Dr. Mustafa Mahmoud

dear Adam i would like also to thank you for your warm welcoming of me to this forum
thank you again
dr mustafa mahmoud

من الســلوك المتمدين أيضـا أن يصبـر العضـو الجـديـد بعض الوقت وما ينصب نفسـه ألفـا من تانى يوم يخش الفصل.. بالصـورة دى يعرف جوانب كثيـرة غايبـة عليـه.. من أولهـا ان المشكلـة التى يتحدث عنهـا غيـر غائبـة عن الناس!!

بعدين ياخى أسمـا قالت ليك:

Quote: I never visit any of those posts if the subject line is telling what is awaiting me inside and if the subject is deceiving it is one visit and i am done

فكيف تقول ليهـا:

Quote: how do you know without the first visit that it contains personal insults?

تفهـم كيف ياخ؟! واللا ترد سـاكت بس بدون ما تقـرا...

لا حول ولا قـوة الا بالله.. وكمان دكتـور؟

dear Abureech
thank you for your nice reply
as my post was not for personal gains iam going to continue my aim
I still hope we learn how to respect and tolerate each other
may god bless you
akhouk mustafa

شكــرا يا مصطفى،

فهمتهـا يا ود الذينا

thank you again
lol

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you
(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 19-05-2006, 02:26 ص)
(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 19-05-2006, 02:27 ص)

dear abu AL reech
i would like to say one sentence said on the television during the corrupted dictator Numeraree

"ya ragil"

a khouk Mustafa

Dear members iam still waiting for more to sign up so we can have the courage to say we respect each other point of view and we do tolerate our different views

dr mustafa Mahmoud

أوقع معك مؤيدا لكل حرف كتبته يا دكتور يا راجل يا طيب

تسلم والله وياريت الباقين يسمعوا وينتبهوا

تحياتى

hello again
ya zool ya raghee
i expected that from some one like you
people with high caliber always shine like pure gold god bless you
akhouk mustafa

Im here to sign my name

although not very optimistic about the results

there came many posts with the same idea , the problem is those who are "attituding" like quarrelling and make personal stuff popular , will continue to do so , this is a matter of personal behaviour , I guess this is too hard to be changed with a post, two or ten ... but we are behind every good invitation to take ourselves forward

dear tona
we can only try
we would like to be ale to stand and say
we respect each others opinion and accept and tolerate others opinion
just a little civilization as starter will help to build the new civilised Sudan

there is an English saying

YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK
if we want to be civilised we have to be tolerant and accept each other point of view

Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

Quote: i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues

with due respect, i don't see any personal fighting here
people differ, and as they differ they express their differences and viewpoints differently

I call for more arguments and more disagreements and differences whatever the language people use to express these different points of view

I am not at all squeamish about the language used
because this is life

Did you know that some very respectable English newspapers allocate weekly pages for people to rant about different issues
Rant means to say whatever they like and offend whoever they like

long live freedom of expression

dear Adel
thank you very much for your nice and helpful post
i did appreciate what you suggested
iam not telling any one here what to write or how to write it but iam asking people when they are discussing personal grudges not to put it in public here but to use the personalised e-mail

service and let us all enjoy reading a civilised any form of posts
regardless of what they contain


no one need to insult any one to prove point
if you rant too much you loose your argument but if you rant a little you may get away with it

LONG LIVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION


by the way i do not read tabloids in UK to get the facts from them but i read them if at all to see how issues are manipulated by the establishment
and some time learn from them too
akhouk mustafa Mahmoud

dear all memebers
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa

لنذكر بعضنا البعض


بان نحترم الآخرين

مهما كان الاختلاف فى الرأى

و بان اسلوب التجريح الشخصى

لن يفيد

لكم منى كل الود

و الشكر

على هذا البوست


تحياتى

غادة

dear ghada
thank you very much for your warm and genuine words
when i saw your name i said what do you expect from the daughter of a great freedom fighter
my regards to you and to our hero your beloved father
god bless you and all your family

dr mustafa mahmoud

Dear members iam still waiting for more to sign up so we can have the courage to say we respect each other point of view and we do tolerate our different views

dr mustafa Mahmoud

after five days since i launched this plea
iam still waiting for certain members to join in
please support an insult free discussion
and a respect and tolerate other view environment
dr mustafa Mahmoud

this plea will be one week old in three days
i wish youm al simaia we will have a big party
so i invite more members so they can join the party
please sign here for a civilised clean discussion and an a new environment of accepting others ideas and tolerating our differences

dr Mustafa Mahmoud

شكرا دكتور مصطفى
نوقع معك ونؤكد دعمنا لهذا الموقف
ونأمل أن يستمع الكل لهذا النداء
وما سبقته من نداءات
فهذا المنبر يرتاده الكثيرون غيرنا
لا للخصومات الشخصية
لا لاغتيال الشخصية
ولا للإقصاء والتجريح
لا للإسفاف

عبد الله حمد عقيد

dear Abdullah
thank you very much for your support
by the way i have read in the last few days quite few posts of yours keep the good work
well done
god bless you
mustafa

this plea will be one week old in three days
i wish youm al simaia we will have a big party
so i invite more members so they can join the party
please sign here for a civilised clean discussion and an a new environment of accepting others ideas and tolerating our differences

dr Mustafa Mahmoud

after five days since i launched this plea
iam still waiting for certain members to join in
please support an insult free discussion
and a respect and tolerate other view environment
dr mustafa Mahmoud

after five days since i launched this plea
iam still waiting for certain members to join in
please support an insult free discussion
and a respect and tolerate other view environment
dr mustafa Mahmoud

Hello Dr

I definately agree

we don't need to know someone's personal problems, this is just more noise and will certainly polute the efforts put in this board. Please be judicious about your writings and consider the others too

I also like to note that we have more bigger problems to talk about

Thanks Dr

Osman Ageeb

dear dr Osman
thank you very much for your support
we need to persevere until we focus around the big issues so we can deliver a new path to build the new Sudan we all dreamt about
god bless you and your family
akhouk dr mustafa Mahmoud

this plea will be one week old in three days
i wish youm al simaia we will have a big party
so i invite more members so they can join the party
please sign here for a civilised clean discussion and an a new environment of accepting others ideas and tolerating our differences

dr Mustafa Mahmoud

we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa

ياسلام يا دكتور اكيد معاك في نفس الراي ... مساحات من التقدير والاحترام

dear brother
i hope one day we can all say we made this place a civilised forum where we do respect and tolerate each other points of view
thank you
mustafa

Yes Dady

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

HELLO SON
I HOPE YOU SIGN OUR declaration for a clean respectful discussion
your dady
mustafa

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

Of course dad
I'm signing once again

Your loving son

thank you very much my dear son
you are very welcomed
can you please tell the name of my grandson who has beautiful picture??????

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you

من واقع تجربتى الشخصية..

أن الأمر فى البداية ينشأ كجدال

أو خلاف فكرى ...ثم يتحول الى ترصد

ثم هجوم رخيص بكل أسلحة الدمار المنبرى

الشامل من شائعات وأكاذيب وألقاب مهينة وسخرية

منك ومن ما تمثله...ماذا تفعل أخى فى هذه الحالة ؟!

انا شخصيا غريزتى تنادينى نحو الرد وصد الهجوم..

فلست سيدنا عيسى ..أو ملاكا منزلا من السماء .


تحيات ومودة للجميع .

Dr.Mustafa

Welcome to the board


This is a very ambitous idea

few before you tried hard to solve it

success was never on their side

sorry for the gloomy look I am giving, but i doubt that anyone could break this cursed

circle

I am backing you anyway

a miracle might happen


Although I agree with some of what Adil said



My best wishes

dear omyama
thank you very much for your contribution
we live with hope
we would like to be ale to stand and say
we respect each others opinion and accept and tolerate others opinion
just a little civilization as starter will help to build the new civilised Sudan

there is an English saying

YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK
if we want to be civilised we have to be tolerant and accept each other point of view

dr mustafa mahmoud

dear amna
thank you very much for your contribution

we would like to be ale to stand and say
we respect each others opinion and accept and tolerate others opinion
just a little civilization as starter will help to build the new civilised Sudan

there is an English saying

YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK
if we want to be civilised we have to be tolerant and accept each other point of view

dr mustafa mahmoud

Dear Dr. Mustafa,

In actula fact u ahve said the truth and whole the truth about those filthy and nonsense personal issues has exposed in this cool forum and I myself have to extend my hands to support u 100%. And also lets all have enjoy with our cultures and traditions and shamaraat but without harm others feelings



Kind Regards
Haytham Algoaz[/B

dear hytham

thank you very much for your support
we need to persevere until we focus around the big issues so we can deliver a new path to build the new Sudan we all dreamt about
god bless you and your family
akhouk dr mustafa Mahmoud

dear all members
here is a reply from our expert gifted writer ustaz khider to
another member
when i read it i felt very proud of being a member here
i do believe we should all read this
so i put it as a new topic
please respond if you agree
dr mustafa Mahmud

bye the way ustaz khider does not know iam doing this i hope he will forgive of being very proud of his writing

أختي العزيزة : maia

كيف يحصل التغيير يا سيدتي ونحن شعب لا نعرف قيمة لوطن اسمه السودان ؟؟

شعب لا تجمع بين أفراده سوى التناحر والعنصرية والقبلية والجهويةالبغيضة

يكفي يا سيدتي أن تجولي بمؤشرك هنا بين موضوعات هذا المنبر وستعرفين لماذا

بقى أهل الانقاذ يتحكمون في مصير شعب بحجم أمة ومقدرات وطن بحجم قارة طوال هذه

السنوات !!!..

نحن شعب نمارس الصراخ في ابهى صوره والمتاجرة بالذمم ولا نعرف لأنفسنا موقعا تحت

الشمس .. وهاهو الوطن يذوب أمامنا كذوبان الجليد تحت وهج شمس الصيف الحارقة ..

وانظري الينا ماذا نفعل نحن !!!!!!..

لك الود كله وعظيم تقديري ..

خضرعطاالمنان
[email protected]

dear all members
here is a reply from our expert gifted writer ustaz khider to
another member
when i read it i felt very proud of being a member here
i do believe we should all read this
so i put it as a new topic
please respond if you agree
dr mustafa Mahmud

bye the way ustaz khider does not know iam doing this i hope he will forgive of being very proud of his writing

أختي العزيزة : maia

كيف يحصل التغيير يا سيدتي ونحن شعب لا نعرف قيمة لوطن اسمه السودان ؟؟

شعب لا تجمع بين أفراده سوى التناحر والعنصرية والقبلية والجهويةالبغيضة

يكفي يا سيدتي أن تجولي بمؤشرك هنا بين موضوعات هذا المنبر وستعرفين لماذا

بقى أهل الانقاذ يتحكمون في مصير شعب بحجم أمة ومقدرات وطن بحجم قارة طوال هذه

السنوات !!!..

نحن شعب نمارس الصراخ في ابهى صوره والمتاجرة بالذمم ولا نعرف لأنفسنا موقعا تحت

الشمس .. وهاهو الوطن يذوب أمامنا كذوبان الجليد تحت وهج شمس الصيف الحارقة ..

وانظري الينا ماذا نفعل نحن !!!!!!..

لك الود كله وعظيم تقديري ..

خضرعطاالمنان
[email protected]

well done ustaz khider


this is the crunch
i hope we all start to unite so we can deliver a united front to introduce the change we desperately need

dr Mustafa Mahmoud

يا دكتور

مصطفى

النضم الفطير ينبلع كيف

يا حبيب في ناس هنا مروابمرارات وظلم

هنالك من مات اهليهم تحت اعينهم

هناك من شردوا من وظائفهم تحت مقصلة الصالح العام

وعاشواالكفاف والعوز وتعثرت دراسة ابناءهم ومعيشتهم

الصراع الذي يدور هنا يا دكتور

هو حق ولتحقيق الحرية

وان كانت عبر فضاء اسفيري

نحن لا نريد منبرا للاطراء والتصفيق

بل نريد منبرا للتعبير عن مرارات وطموحات الانسان السوداني

بكل سحنه وثقافاته.

dear gargah

thank you for your response i can not agree more with you
all iam asking for is to be civilised and do not use personal insults to talk to each other
and only god knows that
how much i hate the corrupt ingaz gang who did this to all of our beloved Sudan
god bless
dr mustafa Mahmoud

ٍSalam Dr Mustafa

I support your plea, but we also have to face it: we are not civilized enough to use this forum appropriately, that's the truth. Decades of fighting, blood shed, and millions of deaths all attest to this. That ugly side of Sudan that's soaked in prejudice, hatred, and intolerance is welll reflected in our virtual world, just like it is in real life

This place is nothing but a sample of the Sudanese society - if there's such thing- with all that it entails. To expect this board to be any different at this point in time is a form of unrealistic optimism (being hopeful is certainly good though

Our discussions, agreements, and disagreements may become civilized one day, but only when we become civilized as a society and as a nation

It's a much bigger job, I'm afraid

Regards to you and respect for rejecting the status quo

this is what Najwan said

is this 100% true?

dr mustafa mahmoud

Hello Dr

I definately agree

we don't need to know someone's personal problems, this is just more noise and will certainly polute the efforts put in this board. Please be judicious about your writings and consider the others too

I also like to note that we have more bigger problems to talk about

Thanks Dr

Osman Ageeb

is he 100% wright or ???% wrong
you can put your views here

dr mustafa mahmod

do we really care here
about a clean forum with no personal insults or fights
?????????????????????????????????????????????

personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you
(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 19-05-2006, 02:26 ص)
(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 19-05-2006, 02:27 ص)

Dr. Mustafa
Thanks so much for your goodwill message. may i suggest a better way to stop personal fights?
let us boycot those posts. completely ignore them till the people take their personal fights to their personal e-mails. As long as we keep visiting them they will continue becasue our visits mean that there is demand for nonesense.
You can preach till you are blue in the face but addiction to this stuff cannot be treated by soft talking there has to be an action.
I never visit any of those posts if the subject line is telling what is awaiting me inside and if the subject is deceiving it is one visit and i am done.
Boycot Do not Ask
thanks again

العزيز : دكتور مصطفى :

Quote: نحن شعب نمارس الصراخ في ابهى صوره والمتاجرة بالذمم ولا نعرف لأنفسنا موقعا تحت الشمس .. وهاهو الوطن يذوب أمامنا كذوبان الجليد تحت وهج شمس الصيف الحارقة .. وانظر الينا ماذا نفعل نحن !!!!!!.. لك الود كله وعظيم تقديري .. خضرعطاالمنان [email protected]

thank you ustaz khider
i hope we will be able to persevere and if we do
i an sure the freedom fighters always win at last
keep the good work the end of the islamist gang is so near

akhouk mustafa Mahmoud

thank you very much for your explanation
i feel better now
i would like to say to you do not loose hope
continue to argue your case if you believe in it
trust me you will win at the end if you love the new united Sudan for all the Sudanese regardless of their ethnic background or religion
keep the fight
god bless all freedom fighters
dr mustafa Mahmoud

to each other like ustaz khider and ustaza Nadia
this is a civilized way of discussion

mustafa Mahmoud






وماذا يمنع ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟.. لا أدري ..

ليت ذلك يكون هو ديدنا جميعا هنا

وفي أي مكان كنا ..

لك تحياتي ..

خضرعطاالمنان
[email protected]

we respect each others opinion and accept and tolerate others opinion
just a little civilization as starter will help to build the new civilised Sudan

there is an English saying

YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK
if we want to be civilised we have to be tolerant and accept each other point of view

dr mustafa mahmoud
(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 28-05-2006, 11:40 ص)

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you

personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

please if you agree with this post write a reply to my post so all concerned will understand it is time to stop quarrelling here thank you

Im here to sign my name

although not very optimistic about the results

there came many posts with the same idea , the problem is those who are "attitudinal" like quarrelling and make personal stuff popular , will continue to do so , this is a matter of personal behaviour , I guess this is too hard to be changed with a post, two or ten ... but we are behind every good invitation to take ourselves forward

i guess toona is wright or is she?

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

dear all memebers
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa

الأخ الدكتور مصطفى

لك التحية


Quote: dear all members
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa




ماذا نزيد على ذلك سيدى غير ان نقول ليتنا جميعا نتحلى بالعقل والمنطق

يديك العافية يا سيدى

الأخ الدكتور مصطفى

لك التحية


Quote: dear all members
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa




ماذا نزيد على ذلك سيدى غير ان نقول ليتنا جميعا نتحلى بالعقل والمنطق

يديك العافية يا سيدى

بان نحترم الآخرين

مهما كان الاختلاف فى الرأى

و بان اسلوب التجريح الشخصى

لن يفيد

لكم منى كل الود

و الشكر

على هذا البوست


تحياتى

غادة
ghada is she 100% wright or is she a dreamer like me??????????????

dear all memebers
if we become civilised enough to accept each other then we will succeed
look what is happening in south Africa at least it is a beginning .
i think if we do not learn to accept each other we will never win and be a nation
let us make this space a small example of acceptance, tolerance and then all work towards the new Sudan those thieves and those who are corrupted will be exposed and then dealt with
with all my Love and respect Mustafa

From this forum i request all members to stop using this forum to fight their personal fights
i find this very sad and very uncivilized that two or more members stay fighting in a post about personal issues .
this is not good for this forum or for the whole nation as it gives an impression that we are not civilized enough to use a facility like this
i request all honourable members who agree with me to show their support to stop these personal fights happening here
may god bless you all and long live the Sudan
Dr Mustafa Mahmoud

FULLY AGREE WITH YOU

dear Asama Ali
thank you very much for your endorsement to this plea
i hope some of us here listen to it

dr mustafa mahmoud

WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A DOCUMENT FOR ALL NOT TO ABUSE THIS SPACE SO PLESDE JOIN IN AND SHOW TOUR SUPPORT
BY THE WAY I DO NOT HAVE A SIDE TO SUPPORT HERE REMEBER IAM VERY NEW HERE

DR MUSTAFA MAHMOUD

WHERE ARE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH FIGHTERS???????////

ياسلام يا دكتور اكيد معاك في نفس الراي ... مساحات من التقدير والاحترام

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Dear : Mustafa

I AGREE 100%

THANKS ALOT

KHIDIR A. Almanan

I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU

BUT WHO WILL CONVINCE THOSE ADDICTED TO SUCH DISGRACEFUL BEHAVIOR

د. مصطفى
لك ألف تحية
ندعم هذا الإقتراح وبشدة
ونتمنى لك التوفيق في هذا المسعى الحميد
وربنا يهدي الجميع لما يحب ويرضى
ممكن لهذا المنبر أن يكون وسيلة من وسائل التغيير إلى الأحسن لوطنا العزيز
ولك تحياتي

Dr. Mustafa
Thanks so much for your goodwill message. may i suggest a better way to stop personal fights?
let us boycott those posts. completely ignore them till the people take their personal fights to their personal e-mails. As long as we keep visiting them they will continue because our visits mean that there is demand for nonsense.
You can preach till you are blue in the face but addiction to this stuff cannot be treated by soft talking there has to be an action.
I never visit any of those posts if the subject line is telling what is awaiting me inside and if the subject is deceiving it is one visit and i am done.
Boycott Do not Ask
thanks again.

is it time to boycott
???????????????

Dear members iam still waiting for more to sign up so we can have the courage to say we respect each other point of view and we do tolerate our different views

dr mustafa Mahmoud

Quote: YOU CAN TAKE THE HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT FORCE IT TO DRINK

متابع معك خطوة بخطوة

أوقع معك ومع الجميع

لك الود
فوق

الاخ د.مصطفى

شكرا لك وزي ما قال ابو الريش الجديد شديد.

هذا ليس استهزاء ولكن صدقني,انت لا تعرف شيئا عن طبيعة الصراع هنا.

وقد استعير كلمات قرجه:

Quote: يا دكتور مصطفى النضم الفطير ينبلع كيف يا حبيب في ناس هنا مروابمرارات وظلم هنالك من مات اهليهم تحت اعينهم هناك من شردوا من وظائفهم تحت مقصلة الصالح العام وعاشواالكفاف والعوز وتعثرت دراسة ابناءهم ومعيشتهم الصراع الذي يدور هنا يا دكتور هو حق ولتحقيق الحرية وان كانت عبر فضاء اسفيري نحن لا نريد منبرا للاطراء والتصفيق بل نريد منبرا للتعبير عن مرارات وطموحات الانسان السوداني بكل سحنه وثقافاته.

بعدين التفت لكلام عادل عثمان.

لاشيئ اسمه شخصي هنا وعابزه منك تعريف لما هو شخصي.

هل تعتبر قضية د.عمر النجيب شخصيه؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

اذا كان تعرضه للتعذيب خلاف شخصي

اذن خلافي مع نورتاور خلاف شخصي.

لانه في ناس هنا لولا نحن في بلاد بتدوي في ستين دهيه لم يمسك(جسديا)

صدقني لاعتدوا علينا مثل اعتدائهم على الدكتور عمر النجيب.

وعندما تحدثنا شخصيا لاننا نملك (بسورد ورد) والا لكتب الآخرون عنا ما دفعته كثمن لمواقفي اكرر مواقفي.

مافي حاجه شخصيه.

في ناس بتختلف مع فكرك,تقوم تنبذ فيك وتهبش في اسرتك,انت عايز الناس تتفرج.

نحن ما حنتفرج.

والبيهبشنا بنرد عليه بنفس المستوى.

تحياتي لك ونشوفك بعد تعدي سنة البرلمه.

بعدين لاحظ اغلب الموقعين من غير الناشطين سياسيا.

يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

وشكرا لك.

تراجي.

dear trajee
thank you very much for your response
what i meant by personal fights is when two or more members are insulting each others in the forum
i have supported the rights for open and civilised discussions of different opinions
i will not accept that calling each others names or insulting them will enhance any case
we can say what we believe in and at the same time allow others to say what they believe in
if we do not tolerate each other how are we going to build the new Sudan with all its diversity?
respect, toleration and civilised discussion is the only way forward
no to calling names
no to insults
and no to personal grudges
dr mustafa mahmoud

long live the new saudan we all dream about

dear rafat milad
ya zool ya ragee
thank you for your support
i hope the horse will drink one day
dr mustafa mahmoud

يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

وشكرا لك.

تراجي
dear trajie
is it possible not to call all people who signed here
"nass jaia titwaness fe al board"
i think this is unfair
i am sure i did not come here for wanesa only
as you said you came here to fight your cause
by the way i do support the struggle in darfur 150%
against the corrupt Islamic front regime
you can see my response about the attack on dr AL najeep as an example

no one has a divine right any where to say we are here to speak on behalf of all
we are all here to talk to each other and enhance our future
i sincerely hope so
all my love to you
dr mustafa Mahmud

يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

وشكرا لك.

تراجي
dear tajee
is it possible not to call all people who signed here
"nass jaia titwaness fe al board"
i think this unfair
i am sure i did not come here for wanesa only
as you said you came here to fight your cause
by the way i do support the struggle in darfur 150%
against the corrupt Islamic front regime
you can see my response about the attack on dr AL najeep as an example

no one has a divine right any where to say we are here to speak on behalf of all
we are all here to talk to each other and enhance our future
i sincerely hope so
all my love to you
dr mustafa Mahmud

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dear trajie
please note the date and time of your response


19-06-2006, 06:51 م

Tragie Mustafa


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تاريخ التسجيل: 29-03-2005
مجموع المشاركات: 4912
Re: بورداب الخرطوم يزورون الطبيب عمر التاج النجيب الذى تغرض الى محاولة اغتيال بواسطة جهاز الامن (Re: الطيب بشير)



شكرا بكري ابوبكر

لزيارتك التي ابنت من خلالها تضامنك وادانتك لمثل هذه الممارسات.

وشكرا بورداب الخرطوم وانتم تمثلوننا.

تخريمه:

يا ملاسي..ياترى لو بكري ابوبكر كان مافي كان مشيت؟؟؟؟؟؟

بعدين هل معاكم محمد حامد جمعه ومحمدين ايدام ووليد 500 وله لا؟؟؟

عشان يشوفوا ممارسة نظامهم.

تراجي.

below i will put the date and time of my response to the same issue

19-06-2006, 04:44 م

Mustafa Mahmoud


. this is my response to the same issue above
please note the date and time

تاريخ التسجيل: 16-05-2006
مجموع المشاركات: 312
Re: بورداب الخرطوم يزورون الطبيب عمر التاج النجيب الذى تغرض الى محاولة اغتيال بواسطة جهاز الامن (Re: النصرى أمين)

where are the dogs of the ingaz gang in this forum
cant they condemn this barbaric criminal action against the Sudanese doctor????
why are they so quit
long live all freedom fighters
and down with all corrupt dictators
dr mustafa mahmoud
well done ustaz bakri


so dear trajie
do you agree with me my response was before your response?
do you call mine wanassa and yours other wise?
the difference between my self and you i called the ingaz dogs to condemn this you decided to put names
that is the whole idea of the way i do my discussions
i do not do it your way as i do respect your way i would like you to respect my way too
the only way to go forward and enhance your case is not to lose those who are supporting the same issue you are fighting for
all iam asking for is to be fair to me personally as a member here
never generalise as this is always not fair
one small advise please try to get more supporters for our cause by being a leading example of love tolerance and respect which iam sure is what you are
keep the good work and god bless you and your family
all my love and respect
akhouk dr mustafa mahmoud

dear trajie
i try to respond to your response in a civilized manner
i hope i can do that

Tragie Mustafa


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تاريخ التسجيل: 29-03-2005
مجموع المشاركات: 4912
Re: A Civilized Request to All Honorable members (Re: رأفت ميلاد)

الاخ د.مصطفى

شكرا لك وزي ما قال ابو الريش الجديد شديد.

هذا ليس استهزاء ولكن صدقني,انت لا تعرف شيئا عن طبيعة الصراع هنا.

calling me shadeed made me have a big laugh
calling me jadded here is correct as a new member but i have been a regular customer here for a very long time
i hope you did not mean an insult here and even if you do i sincerely forgive you

as i am not here to pick a personal fight with any one
هل تعتبر قضية د.عمر النجيب شخصيه؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

اذا كان تعرضه للتعذيب خلاف شخصي
how can we compare the two dr alnajeep was tortured by a corrupt dictatorial regime and you and Nour are having an argument in the open forum

اذن خلافي مع نورتاور خلاف شخصي.

لانه في ناس هنا لولا نحن في بلاد بتدوي في ستين دهيه لم يمسك(جسديا)

صدقني لاعتدوا علينا مثل اعتدائهم على الدكتور عمر النجيب.

وعندما تحدثنا شخصيا لاننا نملك (بسورد ورد) والا لكتب الآخرون عنا ما دفعته كثمن لمواقفي اكرر مواقفي.

مافي حاجه شخصيه.

how can there be no personal issues at all

I am sure you do not mean that
في ناس بتختلف مع فكرك,تقوم تنبذ فيك وتهبش في اسرتك,انت عايز الناس تتفرج.

نحن ما حنتفرج.

والبيهبشنا بنرد عليه بنفس المستوى.

i understand that you want to fight them in the same wrong way they did for you
did you know sister trajie two wrongs do not make wright

تحياتي لك ونشوفك بعد تعدي سنة البرلمه.

me being a prelim
i consider this as a not nice remark
and even if you do i sincerely forgive you
as i am not here to pick a personal fight with any one
even if it is a joke

by the way i was a prelim in khartoum university in 1967
in your opinion does it mean if you join here few years ago you are a professor and if you are new you are a prelim
in my opinion
what you do here will decide who is what

بعدين لاحظ اغلب الموقعين من غير الناشطين سياسيا.

is it a crime not to be a political active member
is this form for political active members only?

iam sure if you look carefully in the list there are members with Avery clear political opinion who signed here
and it is an honor for me to see the nice members sign here

يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

your case and issues are supported by all freedom fighters if you are fighting for the liberation of any part of the Sudan from the corrupt dictator the Islamic front ingaz gang
وشكرا لك.


i do believe we are in the same trench but we are using different means of reaching our goals
to help us to do so we need to respect each other

with all my respect and love
akhouk dr mustafa mahmoud
long live the new free Sudan

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يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

وشكرا لك.

تراجي
dear trajie
is it possible not to call all people who signed here
"nass jaia titwaness fe al board"
i think this is unfair
i am sure i did not come here for wanesa only
as you said you came here to fight your cause
by the way i do support the struggle in darfur 150%
against the corrupt Islamic front regime
you can see my response about the attack on dr AL najeep as an example

no one has a divine right any where to say we are here to speak on behalf of all
we are all here to talk to each other and enhance our future
i sincerely hope so
all my love to you
dr mustafa Mahmud
(

Mahmoud)

dear trajie
i try to respond to your response in a civilized manner
i hope i can do that

Tragie Mustafa


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تاريخ التسجيل: 29-03-2005
مجموع المشاركات: 4912
Re: A Civilized Request to All Honorable members (Re: رأفت ميلاد)

الاخ د.مصطفى

شكرا لك وزي ما قال ابو الريش الجديد شديد.

هذا ليس استهزاء ولكن صدقني,انت لا تعرف شيئا عن طبيعة الصراع هنا.

calling me shadeed made me have a big laugh
calling me jadded here is correct as a new member but i have been a regular customer here for a very long time
i hope you did not mean an insult here and even if you do i sincerely forgive you

as i am not here to pick a personal fight with any one
هل تعتبر قضية د.عمر النجيب شخصيه؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

اذا كان تعرضه للتعذيب خلاف شخصي
how can we compare the two dr alnajeep was tortured by a corrupt dictatorial regime and you and Nour are having an argument in the open forum

اذن خلافي مع نورتاور خلاف شخصي.

لانه في ناس هنا لولا نحن في بلاد بتدوي في ستين دهيه لم يمسك(جسديا)

صدقني لاعتدوا علينا مثل اعتدائهم على الدكتور عمر النجيب.

وعندما تحدثنا شخصيا لاننا نملك (بسورد ورد) والا لكتب الآخرون عنا ما دفعته كثمن لمواقفي اكرر مواقفي.

مافي حاجه شخصيه.

how can there be no personal issues at all

I am sure you do not mean that
في ناس بتختلف مع فكرك,تقوم تنبذ فيك وتهبش في اسرتك,انت عايز الناس تتفرج.

نحن ما حنتفرج.

والبيهبشنا بنرد عليه بنفس المستوى.

i understand that you want to fight them in the same wrong way they did for you
did you know sister trajie two wrongs do not make wright

تحياتي لك ونشوفك بعد تعدي سنة البرلمه.

me being a prelim
i consider this as a not nice remark
and even if you do i sincerely forgive you
as i am not here to pick a personal fight with any one
even if it is a joke

by the way i was a prelim in khartoum university in 1967
in your opinion does it mean if you join here few years ago you are a professor and if you are new you are a prelim
in my opinion
what you do here will decide who is what

بعدين لاحظ اغلب الموقعين من غير الناشطين سياسيا.

is it a crime not to be a political active member
is this form for political active members only?

iam sure if you look carefully in the list there are members with Avery clear political opinion who signed here
and it is an honor for me to see the nice members sign here

يعني الناس الجايه تتونس في البورد.

نحن ماجاين نتونس,انا شخصيا عندي قضايا مش قضيه واحده

بدافع عنها وبصدام لاجلها.

your case and issues are supported by all freedom fighters if you are fighting for the liberation of any part of the Sudan from the corrupt dictator the Islamic front ingaz gang
وشكرا لك.


i do believe we are in the same trench but we are using different means of reaching our goals
to help us to do so we need to respect each other

with all my respect and love
akhouk dr mustafa mahmoud
long live the new free Sudan


(عدل بواسطة Mustafa Mahmoud on 20-06-2006, 03:22 ص)

. this is my response to the same issue above
please note the date and time

تاريخ التسجيل: 16-05-2006
مجموع المشاركات: 312
Re: بورداب الخرطوم يزورون الطبيب عمر التاج النجيب الذى تغرض الى محاولة اغتيال بواسطة جهاز الامن (Re: النصرى أمين)

where are the dogs of the ingaz gang in this forum
cant they condemn this barbaric criminal action against the Sudanese doctor????
why are they so quit
long live all freedom fighters
and down with all corrupt dictators
dr mustafa mahmoud
well done ustaz bakri


so dear trajie
do you agree with me my response was before your response?
do you call mine wanassa and yours other wise?
the difference between my self and you i called the ingaz dogs to condemn this you decided to put names
that is the whole idea of the way i do my discussions
i do not do it your way as i do respect your way i would like you to respect my way too
the only way to go forward and enhance your case is not to lose those who are supporting the same issue you are fighting for
all iam asking for is to be fair to me personally as a member here
never generalise as this is always not fair
one small advise please try to get more supporters for our cause by being a leading example of love tolerance and respect which iam sure is what you are
keep the good work and god bless you and your family
all my love and respect
akhouk dr mustafa mahmoud