correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site

correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site


03-08-2005, 04:01 PM


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Post: #1
Title: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: Ibrahim Ali Ibrahim
Date: 03-08-2005, 04:01 PM
Parent: #0

ادارة دورية الكونجرس تصحح الخطأ وتعتذر
الاخوة الاعزاء تجدون ادناه تصحيحا واعتذترا وصلني من ادارة دورية الكونجرس (سي كيو) التي قامت بنشر محضر جلسة لجنة الخدمات العسكرية التي ورد فيها
عن طريق الخطأ الطباعي ان التجارب النووية عام 1962 تمت بالسودان ،وقم تم تصحيح الخطأ في السجلات الرسمية
ولكم الشكر على الصبر والمتابعة والاهتمام
ابراهيم علي ابارهيم





الاخوة الاعزاء

أدناه رسالة اخرى وصلتني من السيد/ سايمون مسشار التشريع بمكتب عضوة الكونجرس النائبة/ايلين توشر يؤكد فيه ان الخطأ هو مطبعي

typo،

في سجلات الكونجرس

والجدير بالذكر ان النائبة/ الين توشر هي التي كانت تقوم بتوجيه الاسئلة للسفير برووكس عندما تمت الاشار ة الى موضوع التجارب النووية

مرة اخرى لكم الشكر
ابرهيم


>From: "Ibrahim Al-Ibrahim"
>To:
>Subject: FW: The Sudan "nuclear site"!!
>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:47:22 -0500
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Limage, Simon [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 06:45 PM
>To: Ibrahim Al-Ibrahim
>Subject: RE: The Sudan "nuclear site"!!
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>You can tell you friends that this was a typing mistake in the
>transcript. The transcriber meant to write Sedan and NOT Sudan. The
>conversation was about the Sedan nuclear test in 1962 and has NOTHING to
>do with Sudan.
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>Thank you.
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> _____
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>From: Ibrahim Al-Ibrahim [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:20 AM
>To: Limage, Simon
>Subject: The Sudan "nuclear site"!!
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>Dear Simon,
>
>It was nice talking to you this morning.
>
>Bellow you will find the transcript and the terrible mistake made by
>the transcriber of the Armed Services Committee of the Congress. I got
>the doc from the CQ which I am a member of .
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>This typo has embarrassed me and also stroke a lot of debate among the
>Sudanese community around the world.
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>I would like you to ask them to correct this damaging honest mistake and
>let me know please.
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>Thanks a lot Simon.
>
>Ibrahim
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>This is the link and attached as well as word doc.
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>http://www.cq.com/displayalert.do?matchId=6726983
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>I think it page 26,,,
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>There's a poster over there -- it's difficult to see and more difficult
>to read -- but it's basically a poster of the <
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>Sudan>
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>nuclear test site. I want to talk to you about RNEP, because it's a
>study that you're asking for us to fund again.
>
> In 1962 we took 100 kiloton nuclear warhead, we buried it 635 feet
>under the surface, which is deeper than any nuclear buster can dig, and
>we blew it up. As you can tell from the top picture, radiation was not
>trapped inside the earth and instead was spread above and beyond the
>target area.
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> As you can see from the picture below, the <
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>Sudan test displaced 12 million tons of earth and a dug crater 320 feet
>deep and over 1,000 feet in diameter.
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> On December 18th, 1970, we conducted another test. The Bainberry
>used a 10 kiloton device, smaller than the Hiroshima weapon and probably
>much lower than the B83, and that was placed in the bottom of a sealed
>900-foot shaft. The shaft did not contain the explosion. It released a
>flow-out cloud that rose 10,000 feet in the air and tracked north to
>Canada.
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> So, Ambassador Brooks, in both of these cases, the RNEP was buried
>and we controlled the environment. You've discussed this before in an
>unclassified environment. I just want to know: Is there any way an RNEP
>of any size that we would drop will not produce a huge amount of
>radioactive debris?
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>BROOKS:
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> No, there's not.
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Post: #2
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: Mohamed A. Salih
Date: 03-08-2005, 04:30 PM
Parent: #1

Thank you brother for this clarification.
We knew all along that you have reported
what you got out of concern. This was a
bad error on the part of the transcript
writer of course. Please overlook some
of the jokes made about this whole thing.

Post: #3
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: أبوالريش
Date: 03-08-2005, 06:19 PM
Parent: #2

Hello guys

this kind of (typos) can not go easily like this!! I will
send both: the (typo) and the correction to cnn and other recipients
just to tell them that at some point, thre were a terrible teerible mistake
that they didn't know of

bye

Post: #4
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: Hussein Mallasi
Date: 03-08-2005, 11:25 PM
Parent: #3

اذا كان كدا؛

يبقى الحق على الطليان.

Post: #5
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: أيمن جبارة الله الخضر
Date: 03-09-2005, 00:36 AM
Parent: #4

الخرطوم - أ ش أ
إستدعى وزير الخارجية الدكتور مصطفى عثمان اسماعيل القائم بالاعمال الامريكى فى الخرطوم وطلب منه توضيحا رسميا عن تجربتين نوويتين اجرتهما الولايات المتحدة الامريكية فى اراضى سوادنية عامى 1962 و 1970.
وشكل اسماعيل لجنة فنية من مراكز الابحاث وخبراء فى المجال النووي تتولى تحديد الاضرار التى يمكن ان تصيب المواطنين السودانين والبيئة من جراء هاتين التجربتين .
يذكر ان مجلس النواب الامريكى قد عقد جلسة استماع اكد خلالها احد المسئولين الامريكيين ئجراء تجربتين نوويتين فى اراضى سودانية فى عامى 62 و 70 0
وأطلق الوزير نداء الى جميع السودانيين العاملين فى الخارج وفى الولايات المتحدة الامريكية بابلاغ اللجنة الفنية باية معلومات عن هاتين التجربتين كما استفسر من اعضاء الحكومتين السودانيتين اللتين كانتا قائمتين على امر السودان فى هذين العامين ليطلعوه على حقيقة التجربتين النوويتين .
كما طلب اسماعيل من السفارة السودانية فى واشطن جمع معلومات عن هاتين التجربتين.

يا جماعة قولو ليهم..
معاكم الكاميرا الخفية!

Post: #6
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: محمد أبوجودة
Date: 03-09-2005, 02:35 AM
Parent: #1

Dear All

Attn. Our brother , (Journalist) Ibrahim A. Ibrahim


Have a nice Day


Never mind . Sure , we are accepting this apology for the critical report that has occurred due to TYPO mistake by CQ. Meantime, we are so appreciated for your kind enthusiasm to sharing us this fatal information herein Sudanese On Line ; However, we are a little but amazed to know that our concerned officials i.e : Ministry of Foreign Affaires , though they are having a huge delegate in US. , they are’ simply collapse in such sophisticated issue without to take appropriate procedures by investigate the information with their own resources therein instead to carrying out their false demonstration in such vague way !!

On the other hand, Dear Ibrahim,
I would like to extend you my best wishes and warm congratulations for the occasion of yours’ marriage ceremony .. Mabrooook Ya ‘arees ..

Post: #7
Title: Re: correction and appology from CQ about The Sudan nuclear site
Author: إيمان أحمد
Date: 03-09-2005, 08:21 AM
Parent: #1

Greetings


As the news was alarming, and accepting that it was only a TYPO is not that easy, I did a Web search and found the following about the Sedan Nuclear Experiment

http://www.nv.doe.gov/news&pubs/publications/historyrep...news&views/sedan.htm

http://www.nv.doe.gov/nts/tours.htm
.......
And the following:
Quote: Sedan Event, a Cratering Experiment at NTS
Sedan (1962) was an excavation experiment conducted at the Nevada Test Site. It was one of 27 tests conducted between 1957 and 1973 in the Plowshare Program to develop technology for using nuclear explosives in earth-moving projects such as the creation of harbors and canals.

from here
http://www.llnl.gov/timeline/60s.html#

........

As well as the following:

Quote: The most striking reminder of Operation Plowshare is the Sedan Crater, 1,280 feet across and 320 feet deep. It was an experiment in the use of nuclear explosions for excavation, to dig canals or dredge harbors. The Sedan test detonated a 104-kiloton device 635 feet underground, displacing 12 million tons of earth. Tons of that sand became airborne fallout, and the process was deemed unsuitable for digging. Occasional Plowshare tests, 35 in all, continued until 1973
.
from here
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/experience/the.bom.../route/07.test.site/
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It seems like done in Nevada, and this explains the fact that the effect was detected in Canada.
there are photos on the above Web Sites, which show th crater and othr detail about the experiment.



Thanks to Mr. Ibrahim Ali Ibrahim for addressing our concerns
and to Bakri for posting the piece of news and the correction as well

Iman