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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  الأستـاذ  متوكل  مصطفى  الحسين  شخصيــا..  الأخــوة  والأخوات  الكـرام،  دعونى  أقـدم  لكم  الأستـاذ  المحامى  متوكل  مصطفى  الحسين..  فهـو  من  الذين  حاربـوا  الجبهـة  منـذ  السبعينـات  وعنـدما  كان  طالبا  بالجامعـة،  حين  كان  التقـدميـون  الأشـاوس  يثبطـونـه  ويقولون  لـه  أترك  الكيزان الأن  لأن  الشعب  جائـع  ولا بد  من  محاربـة  النميرى  أولا..  وكانت  ردوده  هى  ،  لو  أتى  الكيزان  للحكـم  فلن  تستطيعـوا  الحديث  عن  الكيزان  ولا  عن  الجـوع!!  وهـذا  ما  حدث  بالضبـط. والله  نورت  وشــرفت..  جئت  فى  وقت  صعاليك  الجبهــة  يســومون  أهلنا  فى  الشــرق  العـذاب..  ويا  مريـم،  الحمـد  لله  على  ســلامـة  وصــول  "عمـو"  الجـد  جـد!
  Mohamed Osman
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: أبوالريش)
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  Salam to all
  In addition to the ongoing and persecution of so many 
   nameless people , and horrible crimes against the Sudanese 
  people , enacted by such shameless monsters which   dared to call  themselves human being, we have as 
  well neither forgotten, nor forgiven .the
   callous theft and the blatant total misuse, and further 
  complete misappropriation of the wealth of our once 
  proud , fine and beautiful country.
 
 
  I will continue.
   
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     NO Pardon for the killers (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  SALAM TO ALL
  I wish to explain further, there are matters here, which still need to be more thouroughly addressed in greateter detail This specifically pertains to the most recent accord.
  Some of us in sympathy for the good of the greater numbers,feel that, althougth there has been significant progress
   made in the stablishment of a peace agreement between the  SPLA/SPLM   and the the de facto government,find that   there  is a most serious deficiency in this agreement.
  THE DEFICIENCY ,  as described ,specifically being, in the allowance of  serious criminals to avade justice for their horriable  and   murderous crimes
 
  . AS WELL we have been given all due reasons to believe that this defintiion includes one of THE PRIMARY SIGMATORIES of this very accord ,as stated above.  .
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  ويتواصل سكب المزيد من دماء الشرفاء من أبناء هذا الشعب المناضل 
 
 Quote: مذكرة من مؤتمر البجا حول الأحداث الدامية في مدينة بور تسودان سودانيزاونلاين 1/31 6:31م  مذكرة من مؤتمر البجا حول الأحداث الدامية في مدينة بور تسودان ظل شعب البجا في شرقه( ثغر السودان ) يعاني من ظلم واضطهاد الأنظمة القمعية في السودان كبقية الشعوب المهمشة في أطرافه منذ عهد الاستقلال وحتى يومنا هذا خاصة بعد اعتلاء نظام الجبهة الإسلامية القومية الإرهابي سدة الحكم في السودان بعد الانقلاب العسكري المشئوم. ظل هذا الشعب صاحب الأرض يعاني من سياسات التهميش والظلم والمتمثلة في الحرمان من ضروريات الحياة الأساسية وممارسة الإقصاء المبرمج والممر حل المتعمد واستخدام شتي أساليب القمع والتطهير العرقي في شتي صورة. وان ما حدث من أحداث دامية في مدينة بور تسودان ما هو صورة من صور استمرار ذلك النظام في نهجه القمعي تجاه المواطنين العزل من شعب البجا وبقية الشعوب الطرفية المهمشه مما يؤكد نوايا النظام السيئة في ممارسة عمليات الابادة الجماعية والتطهير العرقي وخير دليل علي ذلك تلك المجزرة الجماعية التي اهتز لها الرأي العام المحلي والإقليمي والعالمي والتي شهدتها مدينة بور تسودان ( ثغر السودان ). ونحن في هذا السياق نوضح الحقائق كاملة غير منقوصة من اجل بلورة تلك القضية التي من اجلها سقط إخواننا قرابين لمهر الحرية والديمقراطية والتداول السلمي للسلطة في جميع إرجاء السودان المهمشة حيث بدأت الأحداث بتاريخ الأربعاء 26 / 1 / 2005 م عندما تقدم أبناء البجا بمذكرة إلي ممثل النظام الحاكم بولاية البحر الأحمر مطالبين فيها بالقسمة العادلة في السلطة والثروة مثل بقية أبناء السودان في مناطقه الطرفية المهمشه الاخري علي أن يكون تنظيمي مؤتمر البجا والأسود الحره الممثل الشرعي للإقليم الشرقي وقد صيغت المطالب بصورة حضارية وسلمية حيث وعد ممثل النظام بالولاية تقديم رد النظام يوم السبت الموافق 29 / 1 / 2005 م إلا أن النظام مارس هوايته القمعية المعروفة تجاه المطالب والقضايا العادلة حيث فوجئ الجميع بوصول فرق القتل من الخرطوم متمثلة في أفراد ما يسمي بالحرس الجمهوري أو القوات الخاصة والتي وصلت صباح يوم السبت المشئوم جدا وتحركت مباشرة من ارض المطار إلي تلك الجموع التي كانت تطمع بأن تلبي مطالبها العادلة ولكن كان التصفية والاعتقال و القتل نصيبهم علي أيدي تلك القوة القاتلة حيث أمطروهم بوابل من الرصاص الحي لشعب اعزل وطال القتل بصورة عشوائية في الأحياء حيث هوجمت الأسر والأطفال داخل حرمات المنازل وروعت في أرواحها بالسياط والرصاص مما أثار الرعب والهلع في أنحاء المدينة. وكانت حصيلة القتلى من جراء تلك العملية الهمجية علي ما يربو من 60 قتيلا ومئات الجرحى وعدد كبير من المفقودين والمعتقلين بالإضافة إلي حالة الشلل التام جراء فرض حالة الطوارئ وحظر التجول في المدينة مما سبب ذلك أضرار كبيرة بحياة المواطنين . هذا وقد طالت يد النظام جميع ولايات شرق السودان حيث اعتقلت وزج بالمئات من أبناء البجا في كل من كسلا والقضارف وسنكات وسواكن في السجون مما يؤكد نية النظام في الابادة الجماعية والتطهير العرقي لأبناء البجا بشرق السودان . ونحن نناشد ونطالب منظمة الأمم المتحدة والمجتمع الحر وجميع منظمات المجتمع المدني النشطة في مجالات حقوق الإنسان بالتدخل الفوري والمباشر والضغط علي النظام لتحقيق الأتي :
  1- وقف الابادة الجماعية والتصفية العرقية فورا . 2- وصول بعثه لتقصي الحقائق في التصفية العرقية القمعية . 3- تسليم جثامين الشهداء إلي ذويهم . 4- الإفراج عن جميع المعتقلين . 5- رفع حالة الطوارئ وحظر التجوال . 6- تقديم مرتكبي جرائم الإباده الجماعية والعرقية للعدالة . 7- الاعتراف بخصوصية شعب البجا في ولايات الإقليم الشرقي . 8- بدء التحضير الفوري لمنبر عادل لحل قضايا شرق السودان .
  عاش نضال البجا  المجد والخلود لشهدائنا الأبرار  والنصر للبجا مؤتمر البجا
 
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: نادر)
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  Salam to all
  Thanks Ustadh Nader and thanks Marioma,
  Ustadh Mohamed Osman still I'm waiting for the phone number,
  In the past,we Sudanese have tended to forgive people for their shortcomings,and even their greater crimes against 
  humanity,once their time in political office has passed.We forgave and forgot,leaving the truly guilty ones as yet,still  unpunished  ,
   tThis point of view ,however,although seeming to support what some consider a more "noble: and"spiritually correct"
  attitude ,is due mainlly to deeply imagined beliefs derived from religious and social beilifs  in our culture that have   indicated"turning the cheek" and favored almost total forgiveness,even for the deeepest crimes as being the best 
  way to handle such situations.    But remember we are taking not only about political arrests and other kind of abused of
   power,our concern mainly  for the valuable and often innocent lives,and the systematic and and brutal extermination
   of these lives,for so many reasons so unjust and unwarranted,as could only be as evil,and comletely hostile to the 
  greater good of mankind in general.
 
 
  These types of monstrous criminal ills will surly continue, if the message is given that horribly and grieviously criminal 
  actions such as these will continue to be allowed, if left so forgiven, forgotten and so largely unchecked.
 
  I,strongly believe,as many nations have discovered in recent times,  such attidude can be as deadly and a mistaken path to follow
   as   the criminal theselves,as it potentiallly sends the wrong message to people every where ,and in every 
  community, that such crimes can continue to be inacted against humanity at large,and the will of such monstrously
   criminal minds, as the may feel or wish that they are able to continue doing so....... Furthermore,in the precieved giving of any  of   any such liscence to such people, that there will be no comparative recompence for either their actions or their part  in 
   such crimes, no amatter how small such a part may be percieved to be.
 
  I will be back soon, to conclude this subjet, and again thanks to every one .
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussain
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(عدل بواسطة Mutwakil Mustafa on 02-01-2005, 05:11 PM) 
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Salam again
  In other words ,the  allowing of such henious crimes against millions of  fellow Sudanese citizens , always including so
   many innocent victims such as  children , to go unpunished ,sends the signal to such criminals and dictators that people
 
  are willing to tolerate it as such, and that they may not only continue in their murderous practices, but continue to  get away with it.
  This, for us , is no longer going to be the case  ,the  citing examples from the utterly determined and relentless
   pursuit,  and continuing worldwide prosecution , even to this day , by the Jewish people ,of the Nazi war criminals
   from the Holocust era ,which occured during  the second Warld War  ,more than 50 years ago.It was found at that
   time, that many of these criminals were been given shelter  in many other countries ,including   South American
   countries,Australia,and even the United States among many others..
  These brutal ,cruel,inhumane, and viciosly criminal acts have not been forgotton by the Jewish state or the Jewish
  community,and even now to this day, many  of  them are still  very actively pursuing justice  against those
   responsible for such acts occured against their felow people.. We are talking 50 years not just months.
  These horrifying brutal crimes have been neither forgiven , nor forgotton by this people, and they have now , for
   decades ,entrated,involved,and even deeply embarresed the governments of every country on the planet,including
   the United Sytates,that  have been shown to have provided harbor , or sancuary,to such criminals,. 
  It is by this  of serious regard for such crimes that we will base our unfailinng and unflagging pursit of such inhuman
   criminals inside our country and across the globe,and into every home ,shelter and government halls,that such peope
   can be found, and bring them to such uncomprmising justice  for their crimes against their fellow  country men.
 
  Next we will talk about the people's wealth and the financial  corruption
 
 
 
  Salam
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussain, 
(عدل بواسطة Mutwakil Mustafa on 02-01-2005, 07:08 PM) (عدل بواسطة Mutwakil Mustafa on 02-01-2005, 08:30 PM) 
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Dear Mutawkil  very intelligently tackled  theoratically , the confrontation is inherited since Promethus Vs Zeus. Habitually, we are dealing with the same pattern. Ill power constitutes lackadaisical situation. henceforth,the splendid,big question needs to be placed within our legal,social and moral obligations OR, above them all  thanks one more time,  will be back 
  Emad
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  الف مرحب يا متوكل،
  أهو رجعت البيت وحالأً جلست أمام الشاشة عين مغمضة   وعين مفتحة  عين تزاول ليها أرقام الدبليو تو، وعين تبحث عن مفتاح النور.
  نعود ان شاء الله في صباح مشرق، نتناول طرحك وأطروحاتك والعين مفتحة والعقل اعيدت له حيويته
  لك تحياتي
  حمال الدين بلال
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  عزيزي الأخ متوكل والجميع هنا، تحية طيبة
  أهديكم جميعا هذه الوصلة التي تأخذكم إلى صفحة يمكنكم منها الكتابة بالعربي على كيبورد إنجليزي بدون أي حاجة لنظام وندوز عربي أو لوحة مفاتيح عربية.. بعد شوية الواحد سيحفظ المفاتيح إذا واظب على الكتابة..
  http://www.emtria.com/keyboard/ 
  هذا ليس ضد الكتابة بالإنجليزي طبعا.. ولكني أعرف أن الكثيرين ليس لديهم نظام عربي ولا يحبذون الكتابة بالماوس..
  جربوها وقد تعجبكم..
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Salaam Ustadh Osama Abd  Elgaleel, Usadha Mariam  
  Ahmed Mustafa ,Ustadh Imad Mohamed Khair,  Dr.Jamal Balal and Dr.Yasir Elsharief , thank you for  your stopping by and your uplifting words and advice.
 
  I
   will be back shortly
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussein
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Salam again
  The people 's wealth has been stolen and used for such finery , vanity , and entertainment as reserved for the kings of highest honor and diginity ,while our children starved. It was used for the giving of fine and lavish parties , and for many celebrations of most jublant and glamourous nature ,while families watched their children and beloved neighbours perish , and the land become barren and from the strife of inhuman crimes of persecutions , perjudice , and genocide,
 
  We did not see these as the serious crimes that they were ,all but too late  to stop forgery of the wealth of people ,as ordinary citizens , and the poor , the starving , and the most needy suffered and perished needlessly and without the mercy of those that had stolen such wealth as could have just as easily been used to feed ,clothe , and house the suffering citizens of this land.
 
  The theft of this wealth must be vendicated , and surely must be returned to the people ,as we will continue tiressly in every effort available to us to expose such theives and robberbarons as became fat and rich on the backs of those so griveiosly in need of any small mercy that such wealth could have surely helped  to provide .
  These crimes as well wil not be forgotten , nor go unpunished , and again , there will be no quarter for the theives  , who willingly held both counsel and hands with , who danced and ate and drnak in joy , and with such snobbish abandon ,those same criminal masterminds that are true ,and quite conscious , murderes of our families , our neigbours ,our countrymen and our Children,
  I will be back soon.
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussein
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Know what the old masters did. Know how they composed their pictures, but do not fall into the conventions they established. These conventions were right for them, and they are wonderful. They made their language. You make yours. All the past can help you  ...
  ((Robert Henri)) 
 
  A bunch of red roses ..To YOU   
 
         
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Mutwakil Mustafa)
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  Dear Ustadh Eimad
  Thanks again.
  In what you have said to me, I must tell you that I have for so long, in so many ways, and
   so strongly agreed.
  I must thank you, once again, for such thoughtful words of real understanding and loving kindness –truly and thoughtfully expressed in such a manner as would be worthy of the “Masters “ themselves, as you put it. One additional note I must add to this beautiful quote you have shared with me.
  If that is only it could be realized, and surely was, by some of such prophets and  “masters” before this time, that, as you stated, “ to not fall into their conventions “ this would be my most valid and pertinent point that I would like to make.
  In other words, that not all of us can neither be held by, or bound by, or around by, even such ingrained conventions as have been commonly taught within the mainframe of most conventional theologies and religious overtime. It would be painfully limiting to assume that the  “Spiritual Texts” are binging all the time, and in our case, I mean the Quranic Texts.
  I know you are quite familiar with Ustadh Mahmoud doctrines regarding this subject.
  Many great blessing to you , family and friends
 
  I will call you soon
 
  Salam
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussaain
   
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     Re: NO QUARTER FOR THE MURDERERS (Re: Sudany Agouz)
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  Salam Mr.Jubran and family
  I am so thankfull to your involment because Christians , faith , wisdom are one of 
  the ingriedients that our country bluntly needs.
  Thanks again and till then please say salm to your family and love ones.
  Salam again
  Mutwakil Mustafa Elhussain .
   
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