رسالة من بيروت

Dear Bakri
Greetings from Beirut
Allow me first to thank Sudaneseonline on its focuses on the plight of the Sudanese in Lebanon.

The good thing now, Sudanese people start to organize themselves here in Lebanon, speak out, and demand an immediate action by the Lebanese and Sudanese authorities, with some support from the Lebanese progressive forces, and some Shiite organizations. Some Lebanese newspapers like AS- Safir, and Al- Akhbar are siding with the plight of the Sudanese workers. Infact some Lebanese in the ####e enclave of Al- Awzai defended the Sudanese against the brutal attack by the police in June 6th. To tell you the truth as a Sudanese who lives in Lebanon now. Most of Sudanese workers here need a concrete action to legalize their residency, lower the hefty residency fees from $1000/year to $50/ year like the treatment of the workers from Egypt. treated just like the Egyptian workers . They also need a strong intervention by the Sudanese embassy, and the government to negotiate labor contracts with Lebanon to provide services in hotels, and companies. They also need a presence of an effective and efficient Labor attache to follow their working issues. In general, we don't want rhetoric, and demonizing of the entire Lebanese society, we want to restore the dignity of the Sudanese, provide secure jobs for them in Lebanon and labor contracts, and end the police brutality, and punish the people who have committed the atrocity in Al- Awzai .We also want an immediate and unconditional release of all Sudanese prisoners in Lebanese jails. We should work hand in hand with the Lebanese patriotic forces to help ending discrimination, and unlawful labor practices in Lebanon against Sudanese workers in Lebanon. I am sure you are familiar now with the strong stand of the Progressive Socialist Party. Party of God, the Lebanese Communist Party, and some human rights groups inside Lebanon . Sudanese media should also shed lights on the plight of the Sudanese in Lebanon, and take strong stand . Finally, the current crisis shows the weak, and indifferent role of the Sudanese embassy in Lebanon. Sudanese Ministry of Foreign affairs should follow the situation in Lebanon carefully ,and take strong actions, including a formal protest to the government of Lebanon, and a formal demand for an investigation in the criminal activities by the Lebanese police in Al- Awzai's incident, and the mistreatment of more than 200 Sudanese in Lebanese jails. Sudanese government should intervene to defend the rights of the Sudanese workers in Lebanon not to defend the action by the Lebanese authorities by repeating the false claims that the people who were arrested in Al- Awzai's incident were illegal workers. I hope you include some of my suggestions in any actions, and demands would be taken
the demonstrators in Khartoum.

Regards

Abu Marwan

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Quote: with some support from the Lebanese progressive forces, and some Shiite organizations

Dear Abu Marwan

sorry to tell you this is totally rejected move and very dangerous one.. we should never ever
accept any partisan help in Lebanon because first, this is an interference in their internal
affairs, second we know how the Lebanese politics are complex and accepting help specially from
one party means you are siding with that party against their rivals.. if the other side don't hurt you
today they will do tomorrow when they clash again.. if you accept help from a party today then they will expect
your help against their fellow Lebanese tomorrow

Why don't you just go the normal venues as forigners who should only deal with the government and it's legal system

you a forigner in Lebanon, you are not a Lebanese citizen to talk to or solicit help from political parties there

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Well Done Sudaneseonline

Well Done Bakri Abubakr

Keep The Good Work Up

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Quote: Most of Sudanese workers here need a concrete action to legalize their residency, lower the hefty residency fees from $1000/year to $50/ year like the treatment of the workers from Egypt.

Quote: They also need a strong intervention by the Sudanese embassy, and the government to negotiate labor contracts with Lebanon to provide services in hotels, and companies

Quote: we want to restore the dignity of the Sudanese,

Quote: end the police brutality, and punish the people who have committed the atrocity in Al- Awzai

Quote: We also want an immediate and unconditional release of all Sudanese prisoners in Lebanese jails.

Quote: Sudanese media should also shed lights on the plight of the Sudanese in Lebanon, and take strong stand .

Quote: the current crisis shows the weak, and indifferent role of the Sudanese embassy in Lebanon.

Quote: Sudanese Ministry of Foreign affairs should follow the situation in Lebanon carefully ,and take strong actions

Dear Abu Marwan

Quote: sorry to tell you this is totally rejected move and very dangerous one.. we should never ever accept any partisan help in Lebanon because first, this is an interference in their internal affairs, second we know how the Lebanese politics are complex and accepting help specially from one party means you are siding with that party against their rivals.. if the other side don't hurt you today they will do tomorrow when they clash again.. if you accept help from a party today then they will expect your help against their fellow Lebanese tomorrow

WHAT ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES FOR THEN IF NOT FOR PICKING UP THE GOVERNMENT'S MISTAKES AND CASHING ON THEIR BLUNDERS
WITH THE RIGHT MOVE OF SIDING WITH THE SUDANESE REFUGEES AND LOOKING INTO THEIR PLIGHT , I BELIEVE THE lEBANESE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE GAINING GROUNDS IN THE LEBANESE POLITICS AND SHOWING HOW CONSIDERATE THEY WILL BE TOWARDS FORIGN THE COUNTRY'S FORIGN AFFAIRS ,INCASE THE TAKE THE HELM IN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTIONS ,


Abureesh , with all respect , but it seems that you are always against what is seen rational by most of us boarders here!!!!

Quote: WHAT ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES FOR THEN IF NOT FOR PICKING UP THE GOVERNMENT'S MISTAKES AND CASHING ON THEIR BLUNDERS WITH THE RIGHT MOVE OF SIDING WITH THE SUDANESE REFUGEES AND LOOKING INTO THEIR PLIGHT , I BELIEVE THE lEBANESE OPPOSITION PARTIES ARE GAINING GROUNDS IN THE LEBANESE POLITICS AND SHOWING HOW CONSIDERATE THEY WILL BE TOWARDS FORIGN THE COUNTRY'S FORIGN AFFAIRS ,INCASE THE TAKE THE HELM IN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTIONS

Mr. Mazin
all right, let them stand by forign workers rights and gain politically, but this is none of
our business as sudanese and forigners who should only deal with govrenment aparatus, I think
you lost my point

Quote: Abureesh , with all respect , but it seems that you are always against what is seen rational by most of us boarders here!!!!

Also with all due respect to your person, but this is non-sense and ucalled for, just search in the postings of this issue only and you will see my stance against the brutality
of the Lebanese police and the nonsesne talk of the naieve Lebanese Ambasador in Khartoum when he tried to play on the internal
Sudanese politics as well when he mentioned the presidant and Mr. Ismail

Dear All ...
I don’t mind the fact that our Sudanese brothers in Lebanon are taking some actions and initiatives inside Lebanon with some of Lebanese entities , but looking at this aligned with what we done today in Khartoum ,we can come out with a result that we became dedicated towards Lebanese and Lebanon only , but what is mostly required now is to give the government of Sudan some of the hard times ,why don’t we – next time – in case of the coming days show no response nor progress in the case , to go directly to the ministry of the foreign affairs ??!! Why don’t we ?

The government can't take such step coz they lack the moral grounds to condemn the brutality of others due to the shameful record of their own security apparatus against their own citizen

The above quote shows obviously that the Sudanese in Lebanon are not treated equally by the Lebanese government. What make the government charges the Sudanese $1000 a year while the other workers from other are Arab countries are charged $50 …. !!!!! What a deal …..!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree , but i am counting on the pressure which we can put on their neck ,if it became clear to our miserable government that we Do wait for an action from their side toward this or otherwise bad things will happen , then , they will do something and i know it will be for the sake of benefits only , in a way where they will take advantages of the case i mean... but as for now ,we need an action ! Regards, Kahin

Quote: all right, let them stand by forign workers rights and gain politically, but this is none of our business as sudanese and forigners who should only deal with govrenment aparatus, I think you lost my point[/Q MR.Abureesh those refugees didn't seek the help of the Lebanese opposition parties nor did they went to the Lebanese dailies - the police brutality against the Sudanese refugees and party attenders is no longer a news in the whole world let alone in Lebanon!

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Post: #13 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: بكري الخير Date: 06-23-2010, 11:09 AM Parent: #11 عزيزي بكري تحية من بيروت اسمحوا لي أولا أن أشكر Sudaneseonline عن دورتها تركز على محنة السودانيين في لبنان. الشيء جيدة الآن ، والشعب السوداني اضافة الى تنظيم أنفسهم هنا في لبنان ، والتحدث بها ، والطلب على اتخاذ إجراءات فورية من قبل السلطات اللبنانية والسودانية ، مع بعض الدعم من القوات التقدمية اللبنانية ، وبعض المنظمات الشيعية. بعض الصحف اللبنانية مثل صحيفة السفير ، و آل الأخبار ، والوقوف الى جانب محنة العمال السودانيين. ودافع انفاكت بعض اللبنانيين في جيب # # # # (ه) من الاوزاعي السودانية ضد هجوم وحشي من قبل الشرطة في 6 يونيو. ان اقول لكم الحقيقة بوصفها السوداني الذي يعيش في لبنان الآن. معظم العمال السودانيين هنا في حاجة إلى اتخاذ إجراءات ملموسة لإضفاء الشرعية على إقامتهم ، وخفض رسوم الإقامة ضخمة من مبلغ 1000/year إلى 50 دولارا في السنة مثل معاملة العمال من مصر. تماما مثل معاملة العمال المصريين. هم أيضا في حاجة إلى تدخل قوي من جانب السفارة السودانية ، والحكومة للتفاوض على عقود العمل مع لبنان لتقديم الخدمات في الفنادق والشركات. هم أيضا في حاجة إلى وجود ملحق العمل بفعالية وكفاءة لمتابعة قضايا عملهم. بشكل عام ، نحن لا نريد الكلام ، وتشويه صورة المجتمع اللبناني بأسره ، ونحن نريد لاستعادة كرامة السودانية ، وتوفير فرص عمل آمنة لهم في لبنان ، وعقود العمل ، ووضع حد لوحشية الشرطة ، ومعاقبة الأشخاص الذين ارتكبوا الفظائع في الاوزاعي ، ونحن نريد أيضا الإفراج الفوري وغير المشروط عن جميع السجناء السودانيين في السجون اللبنانية. وينبغي أن نعمل جنبا إلى جنب مع القوات الوطنية اللبنانية للمساعدة في وضع حد للتمييز ، وممارسات العمل غير القانوني في لبنان ضد العمال السودانيين في لبنان. أنا متأكد من أنك على دراية ويعمل حاليا في موقف قوي للحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي. حزب الله ، والحزب الشيوعي اللبناني ، وبعض الجماعات في مجال حقوق الإنسان داخل لبنان. وينبغي أن تسلط وسائل الاعلام السودانية أيضا الضوء على محنة السودانيين في لبنان ، واتخاذ موقف قوي. وأخيرا ، فإن الأزمة الحالية تظهر ضعيفة ، وغير مبال لدور السفارة السودانية في لبنان. وينبغي السودانية وزارة الشؤون الخارجية متابعة الحالة في لبنان بعناية ، واتخاذ إجراءات قوية ، بما في ذلك احتجاجا رسميا للحكومة لبنان ، وتقديم طلب رسمي لإجراء تحقيق في أنشطة إجرامية من قبل الشرطة اللبنانية في حادثة الاوزاعي ، و سوء معاملة اكثر من 200 سوداني في السجون اللبنانية. الحكومة السودانية يجب أن تتدخل للدفاع عن حقوق العمال السودانيين في لبنان ليس للدفاع عن اتخاذ إجراءات من جانب السلطات اللبنانية من خلال تكرار الادعاءات الكاذبة بأن الأشخاص الذين ألقي القبض عليهم في حادثة الاوزاعي وكان العمال غير الشرعيين. وآمل أن تتضمن بعض الاقتراحات التي قدمتها في أي إجراءات ، ويطالب وستتخذ المتظاهرون في الخرطوم.

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Post: #14 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: الفاتح شلبي Date: 06-23-2010, 12:11 PM Parent: #13 Quote: lower the hefty residency fees from $1000/year to $50/ year like the treatment of the workers from Egypt. Any Idea about what is the cost of renewing the residential permit for Lebanese in Sudan It will be shame if they do not pay a single pound

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Post: #15 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: محمد على طه الملك Date: 06-23-2010, 02:12 PM Parent: #14 Quote: Most of Sudanese workers here need a concrete action to legalize their residency, lower the hefty residency fees from $1000/year to $50/ year like the treatment of the workers from Egypt . This unfair treatment worthy our attention and consideration, but it requires strong support from the State and the Embassy of Sudan in Lebanon The support of Lebanon’s parties and organizations is desirable in this case

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Post: #16 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: Kamel mohamad Date: 06-23-2010, 02:25 PM Parent: #15 دعوة لمقاطعة القنوات الفضائية اللبنانية و السياحة و الإ...د ينتهك حقوق الإنسان

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Post: #17 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: محمد حسن العمدة Date: 06-23-2010, 03:18 PM Parent: #16 اتخيل ما حدث في لبنان من دولة تجاه رعاية دولة اخرى لكن ماذا عن يهود بني السودان ؟ دا طبيب بيضرب من قوات امن سودانية يتخيل لي الضرب ما بيكون بايسكريم لك الله يا شعب السودان من السودان الى لبنان انت مهان ثم لا يجد البشير حرجا في ان يتحدث عن عزة وكرامة السودان وهو اول من مرمط كرامته

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Post: #18 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: Kamel mohamad Date: 06-24-2010, 09:00 AM Parent: #17 إلي السودانيون في بيروت: لابد من تقديم شكوي عاجلة بما حدث من إنتهاكات من قوي الامن اللبناني ضد السودانيين إلي مكتب الأمم المتحدة في بيروت و مكتب المفوض السامي لشئون اللاجئين في بيروت و إلي مكتب الإتحاد الأوروبي و السفارات الأجنبية البارزة في بيروت مثل سفارات الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية ( ضرورة إرسال مذكرة للسفيرة الأمريكية ميشيل ساسون) و بريطانيا و فرنسا و ألمانيا و إيطاليا و السويد و النرويج و الدنمارك و فنلندا و سويسرا و هولندا و بلجيكا و كندا و أستراليا و نيوزيلندا و اليابان و غيرها من الدول ذات التأثير العالمي و إرسال رسائل إلي كافة مكاتب المنظمات الدولية في بيروت من التابعة للأمم المتحدة و إرسال رسائل إلي الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة / بان كي مون و مفوض شئون اللاجئين السامي / أنطونيو غوتيريس و رئيس مجلس حقوق الإنسان الدولي في سويسرا و المنظمات الحقوقية كمنظمة العفو الدولية وهيومن رايت ووتش و صحفيون بلا حدود و غيرها

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Post: #19 Title: Re: رسالة من بيروت Author: mutwakil toum Date: 06-24-2010, 11:18 AM Parent: #18 Quote: The government can't take such step coz they lack the moral grounds to condemn the brutality of others due to the shameful record of their own security apparatus against their own citizen المختصر المفيد: شكرا