ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!

ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!


12-02-2007, 07:04 PM


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Post: #1
Title: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: JOK BIONG
Date: 12-02-2007, 07:04 PM
Parent: #0

Burma, a native of the oil rich region of Abyei, belongs to the Arab tribe of Messiriyah which has a strong presence in the region. The Umma party enjoys substantial support among the Messiriyah tribe.

On 11 October, the SPLM suspended its participation in the government of national unity to protest against the delay in the implementation of the 2005 peace deal

Last week Sudanese president Omar Hassan Al-Bashir said that the NCP is committed to the Abyei Protocol only with the border of 1905. He further said the government is not concerned with Abyei Boundaries Commission (ABC) report and that the latter is of no value to them.

The Umma party has generally been supportive of Khartoumโ€™s stance on Abyei and considers it to be part of the North. Some of the Messiriyah tribe leaders have threatened to take arms if forced to be part of the South.

Post: #2
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 07:49 PM
Parent: #1

Erased because of misunderstanding.

Post: #3
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Wasil Ali
Date: 12-02-2007, 07:53 PM
Parent: #2

Quote: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู†ุช ุตุญููŠ ูƒุงุฐุจ ูˆู…ู†ุงูู‚ ู„ุง ุชุณุชุญู‚ ู„ู‚ุจ ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ู„ุงู† ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู† ูŠุชุญุฑูŠ ุงู„ุฏู‚ุฉ ูˆุงู„ุตุฏู‚..
ุงูŠู† ุงู„ุตุฏู‚ ูˆุงู„ุฏู‚ุฉ ููŠ ูƒู„ุงู… ุงูŠู‡ุง ุงู„ู…ุฌุฑู… ุงู„ู…ู†ุงูู‚.
ู‡ู„ ุจุณุจุจ ุงู„ู†ูุท ุฌุนู„ุช ุฃุจูŠูŠ ุฏุงุฑ ุงูˆ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„ ุŸุงู†ุช ู…ุด ุณูˆุฏุงู†ูŠ ุงุตูŠู„ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุชูƒุฐุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุจุณุจุจ ูˆุฌูˆุฏ ุงู„ู†ูุท ุงู† ุงุจูŠูŠ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„..
ุงู† ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„ ูŠุฑูŠุฏ ุงุญุชู„ุงู„ ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุชุงุจุนุฉ ู„ุฏุงุฑ ุงู„ุฏูŠู†ูƒุง ูˆุญูŠู†ู‡ุง ู†ุญู† ู…ุณุชุนุฏูŠู† ู„ุฏุฎูˆู„ ุญุฑุจ ู„ุฎู…ุณูŠู† ุณู†ุฉ ุงุฎุฑู‰ ุญูˆู„ ู…ู†ุทู‚ุฉ ุชู‚ุน ูˆุณุท ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ุงู„ุฏูŠู†ูƒุง ุงู‚ูˆู„ ุงู†ุช ูƒุงุชุจ ุธุงู„ู… ูˆุฌุงุฆุฑ ู„ู† ูŠุคุฎุฐ ุฃุจูŠูŠ ูˆุชุชุจุน ู„ุดู…ุงู„ ุงุจุฏุง ..ู†ุญู† ู…ุณุชุนุฏูˆู† ู„ู…ูˆุงุฌู‡ุฉ ุงู„ุงุนุฏุงุก ูˆุงู„ุงุญุชู„ุงู„.
ูƒู ุนู† ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ูˆุงูƒุชุจ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉ ุญุชู‰ ู„ูˆ ุถุงุฑ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุตูุฉ ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ุงู† ูŠุชุญุฑูŠ ุงู„ุญู‚ ูˆุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉ.
ูƒุชุงุจุงุชูƒ ุชู„ูƒ ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุนู† ุงู„ุฏุฌู„ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ูˆุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ู„ู† ุชููŠุฏ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‡ู†ู‰.
ุชุณู‚ุท ุงู‚ู„ุงู… ุงู„ูƒุงุฐุจ ุงู„ุธุงู„ู… ุงู„ู…ู†ุงูู‚.


ุงูˆู„ุง ุงู†ุง ุงุณู…ูŠ ูˆุงุตู„ ุนู„ูŠ
ุงูˆุถุญ ู„ูŠ ูŠุงุงุฎ ุจุฌูˆู†ูƒ ุงูŠู† ู‚ู„ุช ููŠ ุงูŠ ู…ู‚ุงู„ุฉ ู„ูŠ ุงู† ุงุจูŠูŠ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงู„ุดู…ุงู„ุŸุŸุŸ ูŠุจุฏูˆ ุงู†ูƒ ูู‡ู…ุช ุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ุบู„ุท. ุงู†ุง ูƒู†ุช ุงุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ูุถู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุจุฑู…ุฉ ุงู†ู‡ ูŠู†ุชู…ูŠ ู„ู‚ุจูŠู„ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุฑูŠุฉ ูˆู„ู… ุงู‚ู„ ุงู† ุงุจูŠูŠ ู…ู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุฑูŠุฉ.ุงู‚ุฑุง ุงู„ุฌู…ู„ุฉ ุจุชู…ุนู† ูˆุงู†ุชุจู‡ ู„ู„ููˆุงุตู„!

ูˆุจุนุฏูŠู† ู„ุณุช ุงู†ุง ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุฎุฏ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงู‚ู ููŠ ุณูŠุงู‚ ุนู…ู„ูŠ ุงู„ุตุญููŠ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุชุทู„ุจ ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฏ ุงู„ุชุงู…. ุนูŠุจ ุนู„ูŠูƒ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃู„ูุงุธ ูˆู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆู‰

Post: #4
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:00 PM
Parent: #3

Hi Wasil
First of all,let me apologize to you for the above outburst and I'm not proud of it. And let me correct a factual error in your report: Mr. Burma is from Muglad and not Abyie.

Post: #5
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Wasil Ali
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:05 PM
Parent: #4

Thanks Zakariya. It was an official from the Umma Party who told me Burma was from Abyei. He must have meant that he is from Messeriyah with a presence in Ayei.

Post: #6
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Parent: #1

Wasil
The Abyei issue is an emotional problem for those who have been affected by it. I respect your reporting on sudan Tribune and sometimes you, wittingly or unwittingly,neglect to check some facts on your reporting. The above piece is a prime example.

Post: #7
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Wasil Ali
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:16 PM
Parent: #6

well I took the word of the Umma party official which Burma is a memeber of. If you can give you me other examples of "inaccuate" reporting by me I would appreciate it. Thanks

Post: #8
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:23 PM
Parent: #7

Wasil
I do not have anything at hand and I do not believe that you personally have an ax to grind. Officials at UMA party do. Mr. Burma is responsible for arming the Misseria Malitia in 1980s, it was not the Ingaz. He is the one who has an ax to grind.

Post: #9
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Wasil Ali
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:28 PM

Brother Zakaria please understand that my personal opinions and beliefs do not play any role in my reporting. Rest assured of that. Our credibility and balanced reporting mean alot to us in Sudan Tribune. As far as errors all news agencies make mistakes on a daily basis and correct it in later editions. This is normal. Here are examples below from Reuters

Reuters South Africa, South Africa - 7 hours ago
(Corrects headline and story to make clear figures are from the start of 2007 rather than the start of 2006 after the organisation corrected earlier ...


Reuters - Nov 19, 2007
(Corrects IMF inflation estimate to below 7.5 percent from 7 percent for 2007 in paragraph 8. Also corrects spelling of Giorgianni throughout) WASHINGTON, ...

Reuters - Nov 8, 2007
(Corrects to remove reference to Anadarko in first paragraph and to make clear Fred. Olsen declined to name contractor. Also corrects contract value to $575 ...

Reuters - Nov 27, 2007
Full Bio (Corrects comparison in headline and first paragraph to show net profits rose, not fell. Removes reference to stake sale in paragraph 9, ...

Post: #10
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Parent: #9

Brother Wasil
Contentious issue such as that of Abyei requires careful and balanced reporting. You can not take one side of the story for granted without cross checking it. That is all. We are all prone to making mistakes.

Post: #11
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Wasil Ali
Date: 12-02-2007, 09:05 PM
Parent: #10

Well the bottomline is that I did not take sides. What you are talking about is a factual error related to background info. While Burma is not from Abyei, he is still from Al-Meseriya tribe. It is not for my place to say Abyei belongs to one party or the other.

Post: #12
Title: Re: ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูุชุฑูŠ ุงู„ูƒุฐุจ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ ุญูˆู„ ุฃุจูŠูŠ!
Author: Zakaria Joseph
Date: 12-02-2007, 09:24 PM
Parent: #11

Wasil
I do the same thing that you do for living. I'm not suggesting that you take sides. What at stake here Wasil, and as a journalist you have to instinctively take notice of it, is the credence in your reporting. An informed reader can easily infer from that piece that Sudan Tribune has been used by UMA party as a banana. There is a potential disaster in the Abyei conflict and the UMA party has everything to lose if the Misseria and Dnika tribes decide to live side by side. You should have asked the other side and report both views without redacting anything out. That what I meant by balanced reporting.