Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!

Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!


06-11-2011, 06:58 PM


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Post: #1
Title: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-11-2011, 06:58 PM
Parent: #0

Alsalam Alukim ..

I'm really blaming my self at first, because I wasn't here before .. Just for 2 or 3 times I have just visited this forum .. maybe according to all the excellent coverage that's been presented in the Arabic forum ..

That may could be a reason for this poor contribution here, and it could be as an initiative for concentrating our efforts here or every where in the Internet that has an English subjects ..

We need to start blogging about our Sudan and English so that if every one from abroad want any information about it could find it .. I remember 8 months ago I'm talking to a Muslim Nigerian friend and the talks was about Arabic and Tafseer Al-Quran, I told him that we have a very famous Arabic professor who's Abdallah Eltayeb, he agreed with me .. he said yes I heard about him .. but could you provide me with more information about him .. I answered of course .. and I started googling .. but guess what! I found nothing related to Abdallah Eltayeb about his life and so on in an English contents .. I started type about him in Wikipedia .. I translated his CV and collected it from many Arabic forums .. and that's what happen ..

So please we need a revolution! Yes a revolution in translation for showing the world.. who are we .. and this theme reminding me the TEDxKhartoum conference that held in 30th of April .. I advise you to see these videos also ..

here's the website link: www.tedxkhartoum.com

And many thanks to our board member Dr.Anwar Dafallah who did all that ..

Thanks all .. And hope some day we could have a honorable English contents.


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Post: #2
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: Hisham Amin
Date: 06-12-2011, 11:16 AM
Parent: #1

Greetings
I think your call is a very valid call and it’s very important to all of the Sudanese in general.
But when we write we write for our generations and the future of the upcoming generation, my kids your kids and beyond. We need them to know about the grate Sudanese people, about history, so our focus should be in using Wikipedia to write in Arabic about such people , not in English first, document that and authenticate it, for all who contributed to the country of Sudan and then we can translate the work to any language.
Just a suggestion

Thank you

Post: #3
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: hassan bashir
Date: 06-12-2011, 06:27 PM
Parent: #2

Dear Abdul Latif and Hisham

Couldn't agree more. The English forum should be as lively and active as the Arabic one.

If you have noticed, most of the news articles in Arabic nowadays are translated from the English versions in major news agencies, whether Reuters, AP or AFP.

Leading Arabic newspapers, such as Asharq Al Awsat, resort to translating, not only articles, but also writings by noted columnists in NY Times, Washington Post, IHT, CSM, etc.

It always tastes different when you read anything in the original language. No matter how accurate and good, things tend to lose their appeal when they get translated.

On the other hand, and not that I look the Arabic down, but English has become the dominant medium of communication, and the language of education. It is no longer a British commodity, but rather a universal tool for bringing people together.

I am very glad to see more people coming into this forum and I hope one day, it will be as popular as the Arabic one.

Post: #5
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-13-2011, 10:32 AM
Parent: #3

Mr.Hassan,

You're my inspire .. What leads me to write this and to take a promise with my self is your post about Time to rejuvenate English board .. And thanks for passing here .. we are all hope the same thing.

Together for a better English contents here and every where in this virtual world.

Thanks ..

Post: #4
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-13-2011, 10:24 AM
Parent: #2

Dear Hisham Amin,

Thanks for your contribution, You're right totally .. because it's not about the poor contents in English only, And the question is if we aren't able to write about our self who's gonna right for us ?! Our enemies!! .. and that's what's happening now .. most of our history and archive is not in our hand! ..

I will try to do my best, to Write both in Arabic in English .. we are all able to do that.

Thanks Hisham for passing here ..

please keep around

Post: #6
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: Safia Mohamed
Date: 06-13-2011, 06:52 PM
Parent: #4

up will be back soon

Post: #7
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-14-2011, 01:05 PM
Parent: #6

Quote: up will be back soon


You're welcome Safia .. Waiting your contributions

Post: #8
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: abubakr
Date: 06-15-2011, 06:23 AM
Parent: #7

The two Sudanese mailing lists which I referred to under another subject were in English. During those years electronic Arabic writing was not affordable or widely used. A good number of subscribers mastered English. However some used to wrangle to express their views in English. Most of the users were from Sudanese in diaspora either in US or other English speaking countries in addition to a good number who were lucky enough to get better education at home when Sudanese School Certificate was more accredible than IGSCE ( English medium certificate). IGSCE students used to sit for an English exam.test by then if they wanted to join U of Kh. English is then main world communication tool as such to learn English language is manatory to find your way way on earth nowadays Tieing languages with identity and nationalism has created a great damage to Sudanese. To impose Arabic language in a country with more than 110 different native languages and scrap away English and all native languages has never given Sudan an Arabic identity. Amazingly enough our kids and young generations nowadays who have been born and raised in Arab countries hardly speak Arabic because they do not feel that they need it much than English for their studies or work.

Post: #9
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: هشام كمال عبادي
Date: 06-15-2011, 04:30 PM
Parent: #8

You know dear friend the problem not in how we can start writing our historical events or our old history stories, its more than that dear, do you know how many book wrote about our country but all the information that inside the book is fake, yes fake and counterfeiting.
Yes I'm with you its time to write about our country, however it is the time to change all this wrong information..

Post: #11
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Parent: #9

Dear Mr. Hisham ..

Thanks for showing interest, and for supporting .. hope to see your posts soon.

Thanks

Post: #10
Title: Re: Poor contributions to the ENGLISH forum .. reasons and solutions!
Author: عبداللطيف محجوب
Date: 06-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Parent: #8

Our spirit father Eng.Abubakr .. It's really very nice to read such a story like what u have mentioned .. As always my father was used to say to me some stories like that I was and still very proud of us as a Sudanese ..

But we need too much work to reach the beginning point again; unfortunately!

Please Eng.Abubakr try always to be here, I believe there's a lot still out there u should tell us about :)