الاستاذة/مني عوض خوجلي ترد على الاخ محجوب الذي تحدث عن حركة رمضان/ابريل1990

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11-12-2004, 03:13 AM

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الاستاذة/مني عوض خوجلي ترد على الاخ محجوب الذي تحدث عن حركة رمضان/ابريل1990

    BROTHER, MAHGOUB

    I read your comment on the martyrs in sudaneseonline and I would like to start replying to you by explaining one important point, that Ramadan/April movement was not like what you described, ‘just another military coup’. The group of the executed officers specially those with high military ranks have been working for the army for long time, they were the colleagues of martyr Fathi Ahmed Ali, and like him they believed in democracy, and were known for their support to democracy. The officers did not use the arms to defend themselves, and they could have done that, especially they had control of many of the military bases, but they did not want to shed blood.
    Another fact: some of these officers were supporting the April intifada and have worked with their seniors to listen to the Sudanese people's voices against the dictator military regime that ruled Sudan at that time.
    The issue raised in this statement was not only about the remembrance of the officers, which should be the duty of all democratic forces and Sudanese honrouble people, but it is also about the violation of officers’ human rights, the fact remains solid and clear, the officers did not face any trial, their families did not know about their execution in a proper and official way, families had to sit beside the radio to listen to the news about their beloved one’ execution. I hope you do not go through such experience and feel the same pain! Up to this minute, the location of the officers' collective grave is not disclosed to the families. Why do you think? Is it more torture to the families? Is it the fear of discovering more? One of the reasons in my personal opinion is that there are huge numbers of others who have been executed with the officers and the government does not want people to know about them!
    I am sorry that you were unable to see in the statement more than what you said. You were unable to see the call for accountability as a human right; absence of this principle is one of the main causes behind the conflicts in Sudan.
    You were unable also to understand and appreciate the right of everyone to receive a fair and just trial if accused of anything!
    You failed to condemn the Sudanese government for its brutality towards the families of the executed officers, mothers of fifty and sixty years old were beaten up in the security offices, by young men, younger sometimes than their sons. You did not experience the pain of being imprisoned one small cell while fasting Ramadan, only to be told by Dahawi’s boys that Alla did not exist there!! Female members like male members of Sudanese Martyrs Families Organisation were beaten in main roads and were imprisoned for long weeks in Omdurman. Do you know why? Let me tell if you do not know, because they dared to protest peacefully against the brutality of the Sudanese government and demanded to know the location of their sons' graves. Again, they did not face any trial, had no rights to have lawyers to defend them in any of these arrests, detentions and imprisonment!
    You failed to feel the pain of the little children's suffering, once for losing their beloved fathers, for becoming orphans, the pain for not being able to visit their fathers' grave and for not feeling the happiness of the Eid like some others, and again for seeing their mothers harassed and beaten up by the security agents. In one occasion, mothers, sisters were told that they have to spend the Eid in the prison so that their children feel the same pain they felt before when their fathers were executed two days before Eid. In many others, they were told they were going to be buried with their sons and brothers!

    I believe your words were bad enough to cause more pain in many people's hearts and I do not understand, why did you feel sorry for the loss of 28 men since your idea was like that? (Sorry that we lost 28 sudanese men, but there is one fact about it: It was just another military coup)

    Muna Awad Khugali,
    Sister of all martyrs


    تنويه: تعتذر الاخت مني عوض خوجلي للقراء و القارئات لعدم تمكنها بالكتابة باللغة العربية, نظرا لعدم وجود البرنامج العربي لديها.

    تنويه اخر: لقد قمت بالبحث عن مداخلة الاخ محجوب فلم اجدها, لذلك اضطررت ان افتح بوستا خاصا لرد الاخت مني عوض خوجلي عليه, و لا ندري اين ذهبت مداخلة الاخ محجوب,لانها في خاتمة المطاف تعبر عن وجهة نظره في الحدث و من حق الناس الذين يقرأون الحدث قراءة مختلفة عنه ان يردوا/ن عليه.
                  

11-12-2004, 05:41 AM

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    العزيز : برير

    هل يعقل ؟؟؟؟؟
    كيف لوجهة نظر يطرحها صاحبها في حدث ما ثم تختفي هكذا ؟؟
    كيف يتم ذلك ؟؟ وبأي حق يكون ذلك اذا تم فعلا ؟؟ .
    أأمل من ادارة المنبر ـ اذا كان لها من اجابة ـ أن ترد على مثل هكذا أسئلة ..
    والشكر موصول لك أخي برير .

    مع خالص ودي للجميع .

    خضر عطا المنان
                  

11-12-2004, 07:43 AM

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11-15-2004, 03:58 PM

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    العزيزة/رجاء

    كل عام و أنت بخير و عافية, و شكرا كثيرا علي هذا التوضيح.
                  


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