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 Re: للذكر درجة على الأنثى ابتداءً ، والدليل الشرعي هو: (Re: محمد عبدالقادر سبيل)
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| Quote: وللرجال عليهن درجة |
Nonsense!!.You have to move on from this backward views and opinions which are only fit for the 7th centuary.Yes move on and you will stay a moslim what ever Ibn Kahteer think.....
| Quote: هل يستوي الذين يعلمون والذين لا يعلمون |
What is the accepted qualifications and who is the authority?, this is a relative statement.Those who know, for you, may be the most ignorant to me!.Therefore, qualifications and mandate should be agreed.Whoever is going to please King Abdolla may not please Husni Mubarak, they are human being and want a job and a salary!So, theywill say anything the ruler wants.Just look around you and will find this in abundance.Please give a name of your favourite schoolar, and I will give the name of someone who say exactly the opposite things. the fact of the matter is that everyone choses the Schoolar who fits with his political believs!!!
| Quote: فآدم خلق قبل حواء ، والرسالات كلها كانت للرجال ، وحواء خلقت من ضلع آدم ( مشتقة اشتقاقا) |
This reflects the historical dominanace of men over women, it should be challenegd and not glorified for it is unfair!! you should look critically at these things and not just accept them.you can not use the above as a proof that men are superior because they are better.they are superior because they dominate the ways and means to progress-until today in fact!.Our world is different, old interpretation of quran should change to keep up-Salfeen have to go and go soon....
| Quote: وان الله حينما خلقنا ( لم يشاورنا ) وقد خلقنا كيف يشاء ، بين طويل وقصير وذكي وغبي واسود وابيض وثري بالميلاد ومريض بالميلاد وهكذا كلها مشيئة الله ، فعلام نعترض ونحتج فقط في حال ( حقوق المرأة ) بالمعايير الغربية؟ |
You are factually wrong here.you may predict how your off spring will look like.If you have an african partner you can not have a white child!! And so for the rest of the features.In fact the gender of the child can be predetermined these days.Ignoring these things, intentionally, will not help your cause
| Quote: يقول تعالى "الرجال قوامون على النساء" أي الرجل قيم على المرأة أي هو رئيسها وكبيرها والحاكم عليها ومؤدبها إذا اعوجت "بما فضل الله بعضهم على بعض" أي لأن الرجال أفضل من النساء والرجل خير من المرأة ولهذا كانت النبوة مختصة بالرجال وكذلك الملك الأعظم لقوله صلى الله عليه وسلم "لن يفلح قوم ولوا أمرهم امرأة" رواه البخاري من حديث عبدالرحمن بن أبي بكرة عن أبيه وكذا منصب القضاء وغير ذلك. |
As Turabi said-he is right for the first time in his life-this is a trap to keep women behind.However, women have moved on a long way.If a lady tells you she agrees with Ibn katheer she is not telling the truth!!.This is fit for many centuries ago and not now..sorry
Quote: أَلَكُمُ الذَّكَرُ وَلَهُ الْأُنثَى تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَى (22) النجم
"قسمة ضيزى" أي جورا باطلة فكيف تقاسمون ربكم هذه القسمة التي لو كانت بين مخلوقين كانت جورا وسفها. |
Not any more!!, many would love to have daughters and more are proud of them!!So this Aya reflects a culture in the past that does not exist in our present world
By the way can you stay a Moslim and not agree with Ibin katheer or Ibin anything else!!
Best wishes
(عدل بواسطة Adil Isaac on 04-12-2006, 07:45 AM)
(عدل بواسطة Adil Isaac on 04-12-2006, 07:47 AM)
(عدل بواسطة Adil Isaac on 04-12-2006, 07:47 AM)
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محمد عبدالقادر سبيل
Adil Isaac
فيس بوك
تويتر
انستقرام
يوتيوب
بنتيريست