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أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال”
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أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال” الخرطوم “الخليج”:
أعلن مؤرخ سوداني مفاجأة جديدة عن الرئيس الأمريكي الجديد باراك اوباما أول رئيس أمريكي من أصول إفريقية حيث أكد أن أصول اوباما سودانية ترجع لدينكا بحر الغزال بجنوب السودان، مشيراً إلى أنها نفس القبيلة التي ينتمي إليها آل عبد الرحمن المهدي.
وقال الدكتور احمد إبراهيم دياب المؤرخ العالمي لصحيفة “آخر لحظة” الصادرة امس ان امبوسه ابنة سلطان الدينكا تزوجت من السلطان عبد الرحمن الرشيد سلطان الفور الذي أنجب السلطان محمد الفضل الذي أنجب السلطان نورين والد مقبولة والدة عبدالرحمن المهدي الذي سمته على جده عبدالرحمن الرشيد.
وأكد أن معظم الزنوج الأمريكان من الأصول الأمريكية هُجروا من مناطقهم بالقوة وترجع أصولهم، إما لحوض الكنغو أو لحوض بحر الغزال وحوض النيجر وحوض نهر السنغال، وقد أخذوا بالقوة للعمل في مزارع السكر بأمريكا. وقال إنه يعتقد جازما بأن اسم باراك لا يعني مبارك أو ليس تحريفا لاسم مبارك بل هو تحريف لاسم “براق” فهم من أصول إسلامية وباراك تكتب نهايتها بالكاف. وقال إن هذا ما حدث في اسم كونداليزا رايس التي كان اسمها في الأصل قونقليزا بت الريس وهي من منطقة دارفور واسمها يكتب بحرف “كيه وليس جيه”.
واستبعد دياب أن يكون اوباما من منطقة جبال النوبة وقال إن ملامح وتفاصيل وجهه تعود لمنطقة الدينكا فهم الذين يملكون وجوها مستطيلة وأجسادا نحيلة ورقابا طويلة عكس أبناء مناطق جبال النوبة الذين يشتهرون بالوجوه المستديرة والأجسام والرقاب القصيرة. وقال إن كلا من اوباما وآل عبد الرحمن المهدي ترجع أصولهم لدينكا بحر الغزال. نقلا عن الخليج الامارتية - الثلاثاء ,30/12/2008
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Re: أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال” (Re: هشام حسن)
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'Nilotic' Link Places Obama's Roots in Southern Sudan
By Bruno Gaston
International Editor
ATLANTA, Sept. 3, 2008, 12 a.m. - As Barack Obama's lineage continues to be investigated and linked to persons around the world, Southern Sudanese are beginning to lay claim to the first black nominee for a major U.S. political party though his paternal ancestry. "Obama is a Nilote and his father is a Luo tribe," said Emmanuel Jal, a Sudanese ex-child soldier turned rapper. "The Luos came from the upper Nile in the 1500s A.D."
Nilote is a term referring to people of indigenous tribes from Sudan along the upper Nile Valley.
Jal hopes that by exposing the link that a properly informed Obama may form a stronger stance against the Khartoum government if elected.
"I think the only person who would understand the situation in Sudan and try to make a move would be Obama because the descendants of his father were from Sudan," he said.
The news about Obama's Nilotic roots comes as the media have recently delved into his father's writings and discovered two of Obama's half brothers living abroad.
The Luo are Kenya's third largest ethnic group and largely concentrated in the western province of Nyanza. According to renowned Luo historian Bethwell Ogot's book, "History of the Southern Luo: Volume 1 Migration and Settlement," Luos probably originated at Wau in Southern Sudan. This might place Obama close to celebrities like Sudanese supermodel Alek Wek and NBA star Luol Deng, both of whom were born there. Jok Madut Jok, who is a professor of African studies at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, thinks Obama's Luo heritage paints a small portrait of early migration from Sudan.
"The Nilotes are generally one people with the Luo being part of it including the Nuer where Jal comes from and the Dinka where I come from, but now the Luo are speaking about the similarities amongst themselves separate from the Nilotic group," Jok said. "In current geopolitics, people are referring to these groups as Greater Luo including the Luo in Kenya themselves, the Acholi in Uganda, and many other Nilotes. These classifications are primarily linguistic and have nothing to do with larger social or racial differences."
The Luo community in Kenya has its own political following. The country's prime minister, Raila Odinga, is an ethnic Luo and hosted Obama during his August 2006 Africa tour after being elected U.S. senator of Illinois. Odinga's father, Jararamgi Oginga Odinga, was the first vice president of independent Kenya.
Linguistically, "Barack" is derived from "Baraka" meaning "blessing" in Arabic and Swahili which is widely spoken in Eastern and Central Africa. Luo elders say "Obama" does not have a solid translation in their Dholuo language, but is similar to the word "Obam" meaning "crooked" or "bending."
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Re: أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال” (Re: مرتضى الفاتح الزيلعي)
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شنو البيمنع المؤرخين فى السودان من كتابة حقائق تاريخية بدل إختلاق الاكاذيب و تلفيق كل شئ? السيد Obama كتب عن اصول قبيلته فى كتابه. الاختشوا ماتوا.
"Origins in Sudan According to ethnologists, linguists and their oral history, the Luo are part of the Nilotic group of tribes who separated from the East Sudanic family of tribes about 3000 BCE.[citation needed] Bethwell Ogot places the area of origin of the Luo in Southern Sudan.[1]
More than eight centuries ago, the Luo peoples occupied the area that now lies in eastern Bahr el Ghazal in present day Southern Sudan. The reason for their dispersion from this area is not known for certain, though it is widely believed to have been the Arab Conquest. Internal contradictions or population explosion could have driven them from this region. The Luo moved to nearly all the countries neighbouring Sudan, resulting in many separate groups with variation in language and tradition as each group moved further away from their kin.
A branch of the Luo, the Shilluk (or Chollo) nation, comprising more than one hundred clans and sub-tribes, was founded by a chief named Nyikango sometime in the middle of the 15th century. They evolved a nation with a feudal-style system. Nyikango and his nation moved northward along the Nile (towards Kush and Rip) to re-conquer and settle the land their ancestors had lost to the Arabs and Europeans. The rest of the Luo groups rejected Nyikango's idea and kept a south and westwards migration
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Re: أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال” (Re: Zakaria Joseph)
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كتب أوباما في كتابه " أحلام من والدي" Dreams From My Father صفحة 348
.......... Anyway, the divisions in Kenya didn't stop there [between Africans and Indian merchants]; there were always finer lines to draw. Between the country's forty black tribes, for example. They, too, were a fact of life. You didn't notice the tribalism so much among [half-sister] Auma's friends, younger university-educated Kenyans who had been schooled in the idea of nation and race; tribe was an issue with them only when they were considering a mate, or when they got older and saw it help or hinder careers. But they were the exceptions. Most Kenyans still worked with older maps of identity, more ancient loyalties. Even Jane or Zeituni could say things that surprised me. "The Luo are intelligent but lazy," they would say. Or "The Kikuyu are money-grubbing but industrious." Or "The Kalenjins -- well, you can see what's happened to the country since they took over."
Hearing my aunts traffic in such stereotypes, I would try to explain to them the error of their ways. [At this point, Obama has spent a little less than two weeks in his life in Africa.] "It's thinking like that that holds us back," I would say. "We're all part of one tribe. The black tribe. The human tribe. Look what tribalism has done to places like Nigeria or Liberia."
And Jane would say, "Ah, those West Africans are all crazy anyway. You know they used to be cannibals, don't you?"
And Zeituni would say, "You sound just like your father, Barry, he also had such ideas about people."
Meaning he , too, was naive; he, too, liked to argue with history. Look what happened to him ...
The reason Obama is just about as dark in skin tone as the average African-American even though he is nearly three times as white genetically is because the Luo are darker than most other Africans. Obama describes the crowd at a Nairobi nightclub (p. 364) as comprised of:
"... tall, ink-black Luos and short, brown Kikuyus, Kamba and Meru and Kalenjin..."
Obama's Luo tribe are one of the tall, thin, very dark "elongated Nilotic" groups who originated in the Southern Sudan. They are rather like their relatives, the famously tall Dinka and Nuer, only not quite as much. In contrast, most Africans today (and almost all African-Americans) are primarily descended from the "Bantu expansion" that originated in the Nigeria-Cameroon area of West Africa.
http://www.zimbio.com/member/StoryReports/articles/3492...In+Obama+s+own+words
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Re: أوباما من “حوض بحر الغزال” (Re: Kostawi)
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Quote: Obama's Luo tribe are one of the tall, thin, very dark "elongated Nilotic" groups who originated in the Southern Sudan. They are rather like their relatives, the famously tall Dinka and Nuer, only not quite as much. In contrast, most Africans today (and almost all African-Americans) are primarily descended from the "Bantu expansion" that originated in the Nigeria-Cameroon area of West Africa. |
Thanks Kostawi Most black Americans came from West Africa and were ethnically bantu.
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