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Terri Schiavo passes away

03-31-2005, 10:39 AM
Mohamed A. Salih

Registered: 03-23-2005
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Terri Schiavo passes away

    BREAKING NEWS
    MSNBC staff and news service reports
    Updated: 11:06 a.m. ET March 31, 2005

    PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Nearly two weeks after a court ordered her feeding tube removed, and after multiple, failed attempts by her parents to get the order lifted, Terri Schiavo passed away on Thursday at the age of 41.

    Schiavo died at the Pinellas Park hospice where she lay for years while her husband and her parents fought over her fate in the nation’s most bitter — and most heavily litigated — right-to-die dispute.

    The family battle over whether to keep her alive galvanized the nation over the last month, with even President Bush and Congress weighing in. The case focused national attention on living wills, since Schiavo left no written instructions in case she became disabled.

    The case had spent seven years winding its way through the courts, with Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, repeatedly on the losing end.

    They have been at odds with their son-in-law, Michael Schiavo, who consistently won legal battles by arguing that his wife would not have wanted to live in her condition.

    Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 after her heart stopped because of a chemical imbalance that was believed to have been brought on an eating disorder. Court-appointed doctors ruled she was in a persistent vegetative state, with no real consciousness or chance of recovery.

    In a situation like this, if you were the husband, what would have you decided??!!!
    I personally feel that this was wrong. It is a plain murder.
                  

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04-01-2005, 03:14 PM
ShiningStar
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Registered: 04-26-2002
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: Mohamed A. Salih)

    Hey Mohamed....

    every one should go with dignity.... She levied 14 years as a "Blank" she was not able to live a "meaningful" life..


    ..... statement above is completely neutral ....

    I dont think I would have done what Michael did...
                  

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04-01-2005, 03:58 PM
Mohamed A. Salih

Registered: 03-23-2005
Total Posts: 83





Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: ShiningStar)

    Hi ShiningStar:
    It is a great pleasure having you here and thanks for your contribution.
    You are right, she was not leading a meaningful live, nevertheless, she was alive. I really doubt it if Micheal's sole motivation was mercy. I was shocked to find out that he had a girlfriend all along and also have kids with her. Besides, when did Terri expressed her wish to him that she does not want to be on life support? After or before the accident?
    Regards,
                  

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04-04-2005, 10:04 AM
ShiningStar
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: Mohamed A. Salih)

    Salam Mohamed....

    I thought the same way in the begging... lakeen after reading some articles... I learned that Michael had tried for the first 7 years after the incident... I mean going to all different hospitals, doctors... keep in mind these are looong 14 years... so after the 7 years I think it was only fair that he had someone in his life... however he still did'nt divorce Terri nor neglected her.

    about her telling him that... As far as I know that was right after the incident..

    You know ya Mohamed... this is a complicated matter... it's hard for us (with our background and belief) to judge on this.. cuz I know if it was up to us we would keep her alive the way she is.. But here people are very much realistic... to them keeping her alive was unfair to her and a selfish desire from her parents..... this woman's brain is was completely dead.. only the brain steam showed some life (the very bottom part of the brain) so she really did'nt feel anything, even thrust and hunger were nothing to her...
    again this is a tuff subject...
    ___________________________________
    Heyy... thanks for haveing me ... :o)
                  

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04-04-2005, 06:11 PM
Mohamed A. Salih

Registered: 03-23-2005
Total Posts: 83





Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: ShiningStar)

    Hi ShiningStar:
    I see you did your homework! Good Job :-)

    Quote: about her telling him that... As far as I know that was right after the incident..


    I didn't know that. That means she was awake after the incident. If it was really after the incident then I understand Michael's action.

    Quote: Heyy... thanks for haveing me ... :o)


    Hey, my pleasure! What a friend for?!
                  

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04-06-2005, 02:53 PM
ShiningStar
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Registered: 04-26-2002
Total Posts: 468





Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: Mohamed A. Salih)

    Salam Mohamed....

    I don’t think it's the homework part... It's more like NO CHOICE... I mean this thing was on the news, regular TV, magazines, Internet, e-mail, discussion boards, office/school conversations.... etc.. This daaaamn country.... all useless information.... don’t get me wrong it's good to know.. But not in soo much details...

    They are killing us man.... I am telling you.. Sometimes I feel I know so much useless information that will not save my life.... like how many dimples in a golf ball..?


    Let me know if you get the answer….. (Smile)
                  

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04-06-2005, 03:13 PM
Mohamed A. Salih

Registered: 03-23-2005
Total Posts: 83





Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: ShiningStar)

    hmmm you are right!! Reading a lot and watching too much TV and surfing the net a lot can be problematic sometimes! ;-)

    Quote: They are killing us man.... I am telling you.. Sometimes I feel I know so much useless information that will not save my life.... like how many dimples in a golf ball..?


    The number of dimples on a golf ball varies, depending on the manufacturer and may even be different for different models made by the same manufacturer. The dimples are usually the same size as one another, but some golf balls have several different sizes of dimple on the same ball. Any number between 300 and 500 dimples is reasonable, and 336 is a common number. Not just any number will do. Golf balls are usually covered with dimples in a spherically symmetrical way, and for many values of N, it is impossible to cover the golf ball uniformly without gaps. Symmetry is important or the ball will wobble or its flight will depend on which part of the ball is forwards or sideways as the ball spins. You can get an idea of how to space dimples uniformly around a sphere by thinking about the "platonic solids" -- the tetrahedron, cube, octahedron, dodecahedron and icosahedron, and placing a dimple at the corners of an inscribed platonic solid. Variations on this theme give the corners of Buckminster Fuller's geodesic domes, and also the possible symmetrical locations of dimples on a golf ball.

    The question now is why are the dimples there anway? Let me know if you have an answer. :-)

    (Edited by Mohamed A. Salih on 04-06-2005, 03:14 PM)

                  

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04-07-2005, 07:42 AM
ShiningStar
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Registered: 04-26-2002
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: Mohamed A. Salih)

    wow... talk about someone who did their homework... according to my records I have 360 to be the exact number (I guess for ya regular rather generic ball)...

    People who play Golf always seem very concerned about how high and how far the ball is going to go, so they can make that little tiny hall in the middle of no where.. (Hell no....unless I am getting paid like Tiger Wood... you wont see me doing that)... so I guess that's why the dimples are their, or for a decorative reason!!

    By the way... did you know that a dime has 118 ridges around the edge... (Smiles)

    You know I am hoping that one day I might be stopped by someone in the street to answer one of these stupid questions and win the infamous million dollar... ha ha ha..
                  

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04-07-2005, 04:19 PM
Mohamed A. Salih

Registered: 03-23-2005
Total Posts: 83





Re: Terri Schiavo passes away (Re: ShiningStar)

    Quote: (Hell no....unless I am getting paid like Tiger Wood... you wont see me doing that)


    I thought the same way you did before I tried it. When you actually play it, it is quite fun.

    Here is what Tom wrote as to why there are dimples:

    When a golf ball is flying through the air, it has three forces on it. Two of them are gravity and drag from the air. In addition, if the golf ball is spinning, there will be a Magnus force on it (which may point up or down or either side, depending on how it is spinning -- the Magnus force cannot point along the flight path of the ball however.

    The main goal of making a golf ball go farther however is to reduce the force of drag as it flies throught the air. In general, turbulence increases drag, because the energy needed to stir the air up and make it swirl around is energy that the ball has lost. One might think that a rough ball will induce more turbulence in the air than a smooth one, but it depends on how fast the ball is going. For balls going slowly through a viscous fluid, then the fluid just moves a bit to the side as the ball passes, and then it returns more or less to where it was. If the fluid motion is smooth, we call the motion "laminar", otherwise it is "turbulent." A ball moving quickly through a fluid like the air will have air flowing in a laminar fashion in some places and in a turbulent fashion in others. Directly behind the ball there will be a turbulent "wake", and surrounding that will be smoothly flowing air. The whole idea behind reducing the drag is to make the turbulent wake small.

    The air that slides past the ball very close to it is called the "boundary layer". At the place where the turbulent wake starts is called "separation of the boundary layer" where the smoothly flowing air departs from the ball and does not close up behind the ball nicely but rather swirls around in small vortices. If the boundary layer can be encouraged to stick to the ball a little longer, then the turbulent part of the wake can be reduced. It turns out that adding a little extra turbulence in the boundary layer itself all over the ball allows the main smoothly-flowing air currents to stay closer to the ball and delays the separation of the boundary layer.

    Quote: By the way... did you know that a dime has 118 ridges around the edge... (Smiles)


    I am crazy, but I am not that crazy to start counting the ridges around the dime -- ki ki ki ki (my wicked chinese laugh) Did you actually count or heard somewhere?! Just checking.

    Quote: You know I am hoping that one day I might be stopped by someone in the street to answer one of these stupid questions and win the infamous million dollar... ha ha ha..


    Looks like you have a plan for all these. I wish you good luck. The odds of being selected are slimmer than the odds of winning Texas Lottery.
    :-)
                  

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