ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉ ู…ู† ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ/ุงู„ุงุณุชุงุฐ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุงู„ุญุงุฌ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆุฏ

ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉ ู…ู† ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ/ุงู„ุงุณุชุงุฐ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุงู„ุญุงุฌ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆุฏ


03-03-2014, 07:10 AM


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Title: ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉ ู…ู† ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ/ุงู„ุงุณุชุงุฐ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุงู„ุญุงุฌ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆุฏ
Author: ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุงู„ุญุงุฌ ุนุจุฏุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆุฏ
Date: 03-03-2014, 07:10 AM
Parent: #0

ุจุณู… ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฑุญู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุญูŠู…
"ูˆูŽู…ูู†ูŽ and#1649;ู„ู†ูŽู‘ุงุณู ู…ูŽู† ูŠูŽุดู’ุชูŽุฑูู‰ ู„ูŽู‡ู’ูˆูŽ and#1649;ู„ู’ุญูŽุฏููŠุซู ู„ููŠูุถูู„ูŽู‘ ุนูŽู† ุณูŽุจููŠู„ู and#1649;ู„ู„ูŽู‘ู‡ู ุจูุบูŽูŠู’ุฑู ุนูู„ู’ู…ูand#1762; ูˆูŽูŠูŽุชูŽู‘ุฎูุฐูŽู‡ูŽุง ู‡ูุฒููˆู‹ุง and#1754; ุฃููˆand#1759;ู„ูŽู€and#1648;and#1619;ุฆููƒูŽ ู„ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ุนูŽุฐูŽุงุจูŒand#1773; ู…ูู‘ู‡ููŠู†ูŒand#1773;"

ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ ู„ุฏูƒุชูˆุฑ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู…
1- (ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุฃุฎู„ุต ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุฎุต ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุงู„ู„ูŠู„ุฉุŒ ุฃู† ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุตุฏุฑ ุงู„ู…ุจุงุดุฑ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ู„ู„ุชุดุฑูŠุนุŒ ุฅู†ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ููƒุฑุฉ ู…ุถู„ู„ุฉุŒ ูˆุบุงู…ุถุฉุŒ ูˆุชุณุจุจ ุฅุดูƒุงู„ูŠุฉ ุญู‚ูŠู‚ูŠุฉุŒ ูƒู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ุชุฑูˆู† ู…ู† ุบู…ูˆุถ ุงู„ู…ุตุทู„ุญ ู†ูุณู‡ุŒ ูˆู…ุง ุฅู„ูŠู‡.. ุจู„ ุฅู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชูˆุฌู‡ ูŠุฒูŠู„ ุงู„ู‚ุฏุณูŠุฉ ุนู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูˆูŠุณูŠุก ุฅู„ูŠู‡.. ูˆู‡ูˆ ู„ุง ูŠุจุณู‘ุท ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูุญุณุจุŒ ุจู„ ูŠุฏู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุชุจุณูŠุท ุดุฏูŠุฏ ู„ู‚ุฑุงุกุชู†ุง ูˆูู‡ู…ู†ุง ู„ู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ุŒ ุญูŠู† ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุฐู„ูƒ.. ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู† ู…ุญุงูˆู„ุชู†ุง ุงุณุชุฎู„ุงุต ุชุดุงุฑูŠุน ูˆุฃุญูƒุงู… ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ุŒ ุชุฏู…ุฑุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ู‚ุฏุณูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ุŒ ูˆุชู‡ุฏุฏ ุชู…ุงุณูƒ ุงู„ู†ุต ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ูŠุŒ ุจู„ ุฅู†ู†ุง ุจุฐู„ูƒ ู†ุถูŠุน ุงู„ู‡ุฏู ุงู„ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ูˆุงู„ุฌูˆู‡ุฑูŠ ู„ู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูƒู†ุต ู„ู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑุŒ ุญูŠุซ ุงู„ู„ุบุฉ ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุฅุดุงุฑุฉ ู„ู…ู‚ุงุตุฏ ูˆุฃู‡ุฏุงู ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†)..
(So, I can come to a conclusion to say that in terms of the subject of tonight, is that the idea of the Quran being a direct or fundamental or primary source of Sharia laws is very problematic and misleading as you can see in the ambiguity of the term, of the terminology and so on. And that tendency in fact demystifies the Quran to its own detriment. Not in that the Quran becomes simplistic, but that our simplistic reading of it. Because we need to derive a so-called specific legal outcome out of it, is what is destroying really the sanctity and the integrity of the Quranic text, and that we lose out in the really more profound and really more original intention of the Quran as a transformative text or language, where language itself is just simply a hint to what it might be or where it might be to).

2- (ุฅู†ู†ุงุŒ ุจุชุฃูƒูŠุฏู†ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูƒู…ุตุฏุฑ ู„ู„ุชุดุฑูŠุน โ€“ูƒุฏุณุชูˆุฑ- ูุฅู†ู†ุง ู†ุนู…ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุชุฎููŠุถ ู‚ูŠู…ุฉ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ุŒ ูˆุชุฌุฑูŠุฏู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฏุณูŠุฉุŒ ูˆุฅุฒุงู„ุฉ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุบู…ูˆุถ ูˆุงู„ุฅุจู‡ุงู… ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุญุชูˆูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†.. ูˆูƒุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ุณุชุทูŠุน ุฃู† ู†ูุนู„ ุฐู„ูƒ!! ูˆู„ูƒู†ูŠ ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุฃู† ุงู„ุบู…ูˆุถ ูˆุงู„ุฅุจู‡ุงู… ุนู†ุตุฑ ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ูˆุฌูˆู‡ุฑูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†ุŒ ุจู„ ู‡ูˆ ู…ู‚ุตูˆุฏ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุฌุฒุก ู…ู†ู‡ุŒ ุจุงู„ุตูˆุฑุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌุนู„ู†ุง ู†ุณูŠุก ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ุญูŠู† ู†ุตุฑ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ุตุฏุฑ ู„ู„ุชุดุฑูŠุนุŒ ูˆู†ุฎุชุฒู„ู‡ ููŠ ู…ุฌุฑุฏ ุชุดุงุฑูŠุน ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ูŠุฉ ุฃูˆ ู„ุบุฉ ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ูŠุฉ)
(The more we emphasize the Quran as a source of law _as a Code_ we tend to, I think, reduce, and tend to objectify and sort of render, remove all ambiguity, as if you can do that! But I think ambiguity is so deeply inherent and intended in the Quran, in every aspect about it, that really we do a disservice to the Quran and to what Muslims can get from the Quran by reducing it into a sort of Code language or so-called legal language).

3- (ุณูˆู ุฃูˆุงุตู„ ู„ุฃุญุงูˆู„ ุฅุนุทุงุฆูƒู… ููƒุฑุฉ ุนู…ุง ูŠุนู†ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠุŒ ูˆุฃูˆุถุญ ูˆุฌู‡ุฉ ู†ุธุฑูŠ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุจู‡ุง ุฅู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ู„ูŠุณ ู…ุตุฏุฑุง ู„ู„ุชุดุฑูŠุนุŒ ูˆู„ุง ู„ู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ุญุชู‰ุŒ ุจู„ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุตุฏุฑุŒ ุฑุจู…ุงุŒ ู„ู„ุชูˆุฌูŠู‡ ูˆุงู„ุฅุฑุดุงุฏ ุงู„ุฏูŠู†ูŠุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุญูˆ ุนู…ูŠู‚ุŒ ูˆู…ุคุซุฑ ุฏุงุฎู„ูŠุง.. ูˆุฃูุถู„ ูˆุณูŠู„ุฉ ู„ู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‡ุฏููŠุŒ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุตุฏุฏุŒ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู† ุฃู‚ุชุจุณ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ู†ูุณู‡ุŒ ู„ุฃุตู ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†)..
(I will move on to try to give a sense of what I mean by the Quran, and why I think we should not think of it as a source of law, or Sharia even, but more as a source of, maybe, religious guidance and instruction in a very profound and transformative way. And may be the best way to make the way briefly, as I need to do, is to cite the Quran itself, or to quote the Quran itself, in describing what the Quran is).

4- (ุงู„ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃูˆุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุฎู„ุต ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุง ู…ู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูŠ: ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุงู„ุฃูˆุงุฆู„ ู„ู… ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ูŠุณุชุฎู„ุตูˆู† ู…ุนุงู†ูŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูƒุชุดุฑูŠุนุงุช ุจุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุนู…ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ูุนู„ู‡ุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู….. ูˆู„ูƒู†ู‡ู… ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ูู‚ุท ูŠุณุชุฎุฏู…ูˆู† ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ูƒู†ุต ู„ู„ุชุบูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ุฏุงุฎู„ูŠ)..
(For me, the point is that: the early Muslims were not extracting meaning of the Quran into legal language, in the way that we tend to do today).


5- (ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูˆู† ูŠุชุฌู‡ูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุนุชู‚ุงุฏ ุจุฃู† ุงู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ู‡ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ุงู†ูˆู† ุงู„ู…ู‚ุฏุณ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฑุจุŒ ูˆุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ุชุนู†ูŠู‡ุŒ ูˆู‡ุฐู‡ ู‡ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุจุงุฏุฆ ุงู„ุชู‰ ุชุญุชูˆูŠู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ุชุทุจูŠู‚ู‡ุง ุจูˆุตูู‡ุง ุฅุฑุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ู„ู‡. ูˆู…ุง ุฃุฑุงู‡ ุฃู†ุง: ุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุงุนุชู‚ุงุฏ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุตุฏุฑ ุงู„ู…ุดุงูƒู„ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงู‚ุŒ ูˆุงู„ู…ุนุงูŠูŠุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฒุฏูˆุฌุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ุนูŠุดู‡ุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู….. ุฃุนู†ูŠ ู†ุนูŠุดู‡ุง ู†ุญู†ุŒ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู†ุŒ ูˆู„ุณุชู… ุฃู†ุชู… ุฌู…ูŠุนูƒู… ุงู„ุญุถูˆุฑ ู‡ู†ุง)..
(Muslims tend to think Sharia is the divine law of God, and this is what it means, and these are the norms that it contains, and therefore this is the will of God to be implemented. And I think that is why we are running into these difficulties and hypocrisy and double standards that we all live by. Live by, that we all Muslims, not all of you here).

6- (ุนู„ูŠู‡ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ู„ูŠุณุช ู…ู†ุฒู„ุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู„ู‡.. ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุนู…ู„ุง ุจุดุฑูŠุงุŒ ูˆุณุชุธู„ ุฏุงุฆู…ุง ูƒุฐู„ูƒ!! ูˆุนู„ูŠู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฃู„ุง ู†ู†ูƒุฑ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญู‚ูŠู‚ุฉุŒ ู†ุธุฑุง ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ุฅู†ูƒุงุฑ ู„ุง ูŠุฌุฏูŠุŒ ุจู„ ูŠู†ุงู‚ุถ ุงู„ุญู‚ุงุฆู‚ ุงู„ุซุงุจุชุฉ ููŠ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู†).
(Therefore, Sharia is not divine. It was a human construct, and has always been so, and we should not really sort of deny the fact, because it is not helpful to do so, and it contradicts the very facts about Muslim history).

7- (ุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุฌุฑูŠู…ุฉ "ุงู„ุญุฏ" ู†ูุณู‡ุŒ ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ุตุงุบู‡ ูˆุงุจุชุฏุนู‡ ุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุก.. ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃูŠ ุฐูƒุฑ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูู‡ูˆู… ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†)..

(By the way the notion of โ€˜haddโ€™ crime itself is a constructive juridical concept. There is no mention of it in the Quran as such).

8- (ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ู…ูุงุถู„ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุตุงุฏุฑ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ุชู…ุช ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ุขู†ุŒ ูู‡ูŠ ู„ูŠุณุช ุฃู…ุฑุง ู†ูุนู„ู‡ ู†ุญู† ู„ู„ู…ุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ู‰.. ุฅู† ุงู„ุตูŠุงุบุฉ ุงู„ุงูˆู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุญุฏุซุช ู„ู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุฑู†ูŠู† ุงู„ุฃูˆู„ูŠู† ู…ู† ุธู‡ูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ุŒ ู‚ุงู…ุช ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุณุงุณ ุงู†ุชู‚ุงุฆูŠ ุฌุฏุงุŒ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุชุญุฏูŠุฏ ุงู„ุขูŠุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ู†ุณุฎู‡ุง ุฃูˆ ุฅู„ุบุงุก ุญูƒู…ู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุงุณุชุจุฏุงู„ู‡ุง ุจุขูŠุงุช ุฃุฎุฑู‰.. ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ู†ุณุฎ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุญุฏุซ ูƒุงู† ุฎูŠุงุฑุง ุงุชุฎุฐู‡ ุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุก ุงู„ู…ุดุฑุนูˆู†!! ูˆู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏุง ููŠ ู†ุต ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู† ู†ูุณู‡!! ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู†ู‡ ูŠู…ูƒู†ู†ุง ุงู„ุขู† ุฃู† ู†ุชุฎุฐ ุฎูŠุงุฑุง ูู‚ู‡ูŠุง ู…ุฎุชู„ูุง)..

(The idea of selectivity of sources in the Quran has already been done before, it is not something that we are doing for the first time. The first construction of Sharia that happened for a couple of centuries in early Islam was very selective in choosing what verses to have been abrogated or repealed by other verses. So that was a juridical choice. It was not in the text itself. And I am saying that today we can have a different juridical choice).
ุงู„ู…ุฑุฌุน: ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ ู‚ุฏู…ู‡ุง ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุจุชุงุฑูŠุฎ 30 ุณุจุชู…ุจุฑ 2012ุŒ ุถู…ู† (ุณูู…ู†ุงุฑ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†) ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุณุชุถุงูุชู‡ ุฌุงู…ุนุฉ ู†ูˆุชุฑุฏุงู…ุŒ ู„ู…ุฏุฉ ุนุงู… ุงุนุชุจุงุฑุง ู…ู† 30/09/2012ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุฃูˆู„ ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ุณู…ู†ุงุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุณุงุนุฉ 7:30 ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณุงุนุฉ 9:00 ู…ุณุงุก.

ูˆุตู„ุฉ ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุฉ ุงู„ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉุŒ ูˆุงู„ุงุณุชู…ุงุน ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุงุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุงุจุท ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ:
http://law.nd.edu/events/2012/09/30/121 ... m-lecture/


9- (ุฃูˆู„ูˆูŠุชูŠ ู‡ูŠ ุฃูŠ ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุจุดุฑ ุฃู†ุง. ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃููƒุฑ ููŠ ุณุจุจ ุฅูŠู…ุงู†ูŠ ุจุงู„ู„ู‡. ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ู„ุง ูŠู‡ู…ู†ูŠ ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ุง. ุจู„ ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃููƒุฑ ููŠู‡ ุญุชู‰. ูˆู„ุง ุฃู‡ุชู… ุฃู† ุฃูˆุถุญ ุฃุณุจุงุจุง ู„ุฐู„ูƒ. ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุญุชุงุฌู‡ุŒ ู„ุฃุฏุงูุน ุนู†ู‡ ุฃู…ุงู… ุฃูŠ ุดุฎุตุŒ ูˆุจุงู„ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉ ู‡ุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุณุจุจ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ู‚ุงุฏู†ูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ู‚ู†ุงุนุชูŠ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉ ุจูˆุฌูˆุจ ุชุทุจูŠู‚ ุงู„ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ุงู„ุนู„ู…ุงู†ูŠุฉ. ู„ุง ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุฏุงูุน ุนู† ูƒูˆู†ูŠ ู…ุณู„ู…ุงุŒ ุฃูˆ ุฃุดุฑุญ ู„ู…ุงุฐุง ุฃุคู…ู† ุจุงู„ู„ู‡. ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู„ุง ูŠู‡ู…ู†ูŠ. ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู…ู† ูŠู‡ู…ู‡ู… ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑุŒ ูู‡ุฐุง ุดุฃู†ู‡ู…. ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู„ุง ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ู„ู‡. ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃุณุฃู„ ุนู†ู‡. ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃููƒุฑ ููŠู‡. ุจู„ ู„ุง ุฃู‡ุชู… ู„ู‡. ู„ุง ุฃู‡ุชู… ุฃู† ุฃุคูƒุฏ ุฅูŠู…ุงู†ูŠ ุจุงู„ู„ู‡ ุญุชู‰. ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ู„ุง ุฃู‡ู…ูŠุฉ ู„ู‡).
(My priority is what sort of human being I am. I donโ€™t think about why I believe in God. It is not an issue for me at all. I donโ€™t even think about it. I donโ€™t care to articulate reasons for it. I donโ€™t need it, to defend it to any other person, and by the way that is the reason of my political conviction in the imperative of secular state. I do not want to defend what it is to be Muslim, or to define why I believe in God. It is not a concern for me. For those to whom it is a concern, they are welcome to it. For me, it is not a concern. I donโ€™t ask the question. I donโ€™t think about it. I donโ€™t worry about it. I donโ€™t care to articulate it even. It is an irrelevant question for me.)..

10- (ู„ุฃูƒูˆู† ูˆุงุถุญุงุŒ ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃู‡ุชู… ูƒุซูŠุฑุง ุจุฃู† ุฃู‚ู†ุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠุคู…ู†ูˆู† ุจุงู„ู„ู‡ุŒ ุจุฃู† ุงู„ู„ู‡ ู…ูˆุฌูˆุฏ.. ู‡ุฐุง ู„ูŠุณ ูˆุงุฌุจูŠ. ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุดุฎุตูŠุงุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ู„ูŠุณ ู…ู† ุฃูˆู„ูˆูŠุงุชูŠ. ุฃู†ุง ู„ุง ุฃู‡ุชู… ุฅู† ุฃุตุจุญ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู†ุŒ ุฃูˆ ุธู„ูˆุง ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูŠู†. ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ุบูŠุฑ ู…ู‡ู…. ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ู‡ูŠ ูƒูŠู ูŠุชุตุฑู ุงู„ู†ุงุณุŒ ูˆูƒูŠู ูŠุนุงู…ู„ูˆู† ุจุนุถู‡ู… ุงู„ุจุนุถ. ูˆู…ู† ูˆุงู‚ุน ู…ุนุฑูุชูŠ ุจุงู„ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠ ุฃูˆ ุชูˆุงุฑูŠุฎ ุงู„ุดุนูˆุจ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ู„ู… ูŠุตุจุญูˆุง ุจุดุฑุง ุตุงู„ุญูŠู† ุจุณุจุจ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู…ุณู„ู…ูˆู†ุŒ ูƒู…ุง ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูŠู† ู„ู… ูŠุตุจุญูˆุง ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูŠู† ุตุงู„ุญูŠู†ุŒ ุจุณุจุจ ุฃู†ู‡ู… ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูˆู†ุŒ ูˆู‡ู„ู… ุฌุฑุง. ุฅุฐู†ุŒ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ูŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุถูˆุน ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ูุฑุฏ ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠ. ูˆุฃู†ุงุŒ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฎุตูˆุตุŒ ุฃุชู…ุซู„ ุจุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ู†ุจูŠ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ููŠู‡: (ุงู„ุฏูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุนุงู…ู„ุฉ). ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ุฃุญุชุงุฌ ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู†ู‡. ุฃุญุชุงุฌ ุฃู† ุฃูƒูˆู† ููŠ ุงู„ุนู„ุงู‚ุงุช ุงู„ุงุฌุชู…ุงุนูŠุฉุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูู„ ุงู„ุณูŠุงุณูŠุฉุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ุฃูˆุถุงุน ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุตุงุฏูŠุฉ ุญูŠุซ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ูŠุนุงู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุธู„ู… ูˆุงู„ุญุฑู…ุงู† ู…ู† ุฃุจุณุท ู…ุชุทู„ุจุงุช ุงู„ุญูŠุงุฉ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ูƒุฑูŠู…ุฉ. ุงู„ู†ู‚ุทุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃูˆุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุคูƒุฏู‡ุงุŒ ู‡ูŠ ุงุนุชู‚ุงุฏูŠ ุฃู† ุฅู‚ู†ุงุน ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุจุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุฃูˆ ุจุฃู† ูŠุคู…ู†ูˆุง ุจุงู„ู„ู‡ ุฃูˆ ู„ุง ูŠุคู…ู†ูˆุง ุจู‡ุŒ ุฅู†ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ู„ู‚ูŠู…ูŠ ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠุฉ ูƒูุฑุฏุŒ ูˆู…ุง ุฃูุนู„ู‡ุŒ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ู„ู„ุญุฌุฌ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฃู‚ูˆู„ู‡ุง ู„ุฃู‚ู†ุนู‡ู… ุจู‡ุง).

(For one thing I do not care much about persuading those who do not believe in God, that there is a God. I do not have that as an obligation. For myself, it is not a priority issue. I donโ€™t care if the whole world becomes Muslims, or remain Christians. To me it is irrelevant. The question is how people behave, how they treat other people. And from my knowledge of Islamic history, or other histories, Muslims have not been superior humans because they are Muslims, and Christians have not been superior Christians because they are Christians, and so on. So, the point for me is the human person. And for that I take for example the Hadith of the Prophet where he says: (Al Deen Al Moamala), that is (Religion is the way you treat people). That is where I need to be. I need to be in social relationships, in political contexts, in economic conditions where people are suffering injustice and deprivation of minimum requirements of a decent human life. The point, I think, to the extent that I can persuade other people to be Muslims, or to be believers or not, it is a come-out of who I am and what I do, more than what I say to persuade them).

ู…ู† ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุฉ ุฃุฌุฑุงู‡ุง ู…ุน ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุดุฎุต ุงุณู…ู‡ ุงุฏูŠุจ ูŠูˆูƒุณู„ (Edip Yuksel)ุŒ ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ุงู„ู„ูŠุจุฑุงู„ูŠูŠู†.. ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุฉ ู…ู†ุดูˆุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูŠูˆุชูŠูˆุจุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุงุจุท ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?V=OgbV20Twazl

11.(ุฅุญุฏู‰ ุทุงู„ุจุงุชูŠ ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุงุชุŒ ุทุงู„ุจุฉ ู‚ุงู†ูˆู†ุŒ ุญุถุฑุช ุฅู„ูŠ ูˆู‚ุงู„ุช ุฅู† ุฃุฎุช ุฒูˆุฌู‡ุง ุชุฑูŠุฏ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ู…ู† ุฑุฌู„ ู…ุณูŠุญูŠุŒ ูˆุฃู† ุฃุณุฑุชู‡ุง ุชุนุงุฑุถ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌุŒ ุจุณุจุจ ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ู„ู„ู…ุฑุฃุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ุฉ ุฃู† ุชุชุฒูˆุฌ ุฑุฌู„ ู…ุณูŠุญูŠุŒ ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠุฌูˆุฒ ู„ู„ุฑุฌู„ ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู… ุฃู† ูŠุชุฒูˆุฌ ุงู…ุฑุฃุฉ ู…ุณูŠุญูŠุฉ. ูˆู‚ุงู„ุช ุฅู† ุงู„ุจู†ุช ู…ุตุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ู…ู†ู‡ุŒ ูˆู…ุตุฑุฉ ุฃูŠุถุง ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู† ู„ุง ุชุทู„ุจ ู…ู†ู‡ ุงู„ุฏุฎูˆู„ ููŠ ุฅุฌุฑุงุกุงุช ุงู„ุฅู‚ุฑุงุฑ ุจูˆุญุฏุงู†ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฅู„ู‡ุŒ ูˆุงุนุชู†ุงู‚ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ุŒ ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ูˆูุงุก ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุชุทู„ุจ. ู†ุธุฑุง ู„ุฃู† ู…ุง ูŠุญุฏุซ ุนุงุฏุฉ ู‡ูˆ: ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุชุฑูŠุฏ ุงู…ุฑุฃุฉ ู…ุณู„ู…ุฉ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ู…ู† ุดุฎุต ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุณู„ู…ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุดุฎุต ุฃู† ูŠู†ุทู‚ ุจุงู„ุดู‡ุงุฏุฉ ูˆูŠุนุชู†ู‚ ุฏูŠู† ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ุŒ ูˆูŠุนู„ู† ุฃู†ู‡ ุฃุตุจุญ ู…ุณู„ู…ุงุŒ ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุชุฒูˆุฌุง. ู„ูƒู†ุŒ ุจุจุณุงุทุฉุŒ ู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃูŠ ุขูŠุงุช ุชุณู†ุฏ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑุŒ ูˆู‡ู… ูŠูุนู„ูˆู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูƒุฌุฒุก ู…ู† ุงุณุชูƒู…ุงู„ ู…ุชุทู„ุจุงุช ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ูู‚ุท.
ูˆุทุงู„ุจุชูŠ ุงู„ุณุงุจู‚ุฉ ู‡ุฐู‡ุŒ ุชุนุชู‚ุฏ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุญูˆ ู…ุงุŒ ุฃูˆ ุชุชุฐูƒุฑ ุฃู†ู†ูŠ ูƒู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ุนุจุฑุช ุนู† ูˆุฌู‡ุฉ ู†ุธุฑูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู…ู„ูŠุง ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ุฃูŠ ุฃุณุงุณ ุฃูˆ ู†ุต ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชูุฑูŠู‚ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู…ู†ุน ููŠ ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…. ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ูˆุงุญูŠ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู…ู† ุงู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ุญูŠุซ ุชูˆุฌุฏ ู†ุตูˆุต ุชุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุจุนุถ ุฃู†ูˆุงุน ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌุŒ ู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ูˆุน ู…ู† ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ู„ุง ุชูˆุฌุฏ ุฃูŠ ู†ุตูˆุต ุชู…ู†ุนู‡. ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู† ุงู„ุขูŠุงุช ุฐุงุช ุงู„ุตู„ุฉุŒ ู„ุง ุชุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ุงู„ุงุฎุชู„ุงู ุงู„ุซู‚ุงููŠ. ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู† ุงู„ุขูŠุงุช ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู†ู‡ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุณู…ูˆุญ ู„ูƒู… ู†ูƒุงุญ ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูƒูŠู† (unbelievers)ุŒ ู„ุฃู†ู‡ู… ูˆุซู†ูŠูˆู† (pagans) ุฃูˆ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุคู…ู†ูŠู† ุจุงู„ู„ู‡ (no-believers).. ูˆู„ูƒู†ู’ุŒ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุฎุต ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุญูŠูŠู†ุŒ ูุฅู† ุงู„ู…ุดุฑูƒูŠู† (unbelievers) ู‡ู†ุงุŒ ู„ูŠุณูˆุง ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุคู…ู†ูŠู† ุจุงู„ู„ู‡ (no-believers)ุŒ ุฅู†ู‡ู… ู…ุคู…ู†ูˆู† (believers)! ุฃู†ุงุŒ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุนุŒ ูƒู†ุช ู‚ุฏ ู‚ุฏู…ุช ุญุฌุฌูŠ ูˆุฃุณุงู†ูŠุฏูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ูˆู‚ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ููŠ ู…ู‚ุฏู…ุฉ ูƒุชุงุจ ุนู† ู‚ุงู†ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃุญูˆุงู„ ุงู„ุดุฎุตูŠุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ู…ุนุงุตุฑ.
ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุงุŒ ุฃู„ุญู‘ุช ุนู„ูŠู‘ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุงู„ุจุฉุŒ ุทุงู„ุจุฉ ู…ู†ูŠ ุงู„ุชุฏุฎู„ ูˆุงู„ู…ุณุงุนุฏุฉ. ูˆุนู„ูŠู‡ุŒ ูู‚ุฏ ุฃุตุฏุฑุช ูุชูˆู‰. ุฐู‡ุจุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุณุฑุฉ ูˆู‚ู„ุช ู„ู‡ู… ุฅู†ู‡ ุนู…ู„ูŠุง ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฌุฏ ุฃุณุงุณ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุตุญู ู„ู…ู†ุนุŒ ุฃูˆ ูˆู‚ูุŒ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌุŒ ูˆุฃู†ู‡ ุฌุงุฆุฒ ูˆู…ุณู…ูˆุญ ุจู‡ุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุนุทูŠุชู‡ู… _ุฃุฑูŠุชู‡ู…_ ุงู„ู…ุตุญูุŒ ูˆุชู„ูˆุชู ุงู„ู‚ุฑุขู†!! ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุญุงู„ ูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ูˆู‚ูุง ุงุณุชุทุนุช ููŠู‡ ุฃู† ุฃู†ุฌุฒ ุดูŠุฆุง ุฅูŠุฌุงุจูŠ ูˆุฐุง ุจุงู„. ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒุงู†ุช ุงู„ุฃุณุฑุฉ ุฃูŠุถุง ููŠ ุญุงู„ุฉ ุฃุฒู…ุฉุŒ ูˆุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุดุฏูŠุฏุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุฎุฑุฌุŒ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุฃุฒู‚!! ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ุฅู„ู‰...... ูุงู„ุจู†ุช ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุตุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ุจุงู„ุฑุฌู„ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุตุฑุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู† ู„ุง ุชุฌุจุฑู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุงุนุชู†ุงู‚ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ูู‚ุท ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ูˆูุงุก ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ุชุทู„ุจ. ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ุญุงู„ุŒ ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุนู‚ุฏ ุงู„ุฒูˆุงุฌ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุณุงุณ (ู†ูƒุงุญ ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠ)ุŒ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฌูˆ ุนุงู…ุฑุง ุจุงู„ูุฑุญุฉ ุชู…ุงู…ุง. ู„ู‚ุฏ ุดู‡ุฏุช ุนู‚ุฏ ุงู„ู†ูƒุงุญุŒ ูˆุฃุชู…ู†ู‰ ุฃู† ูŠู†ุนู… ุงู„ุฒูˆุฌุงู† ุจุงู„ุณุนุงุฏุฉ ููŠ ู…ู‚ุจู„ ุญูŠุงุชู‡ู…ุง)..
ู†ุต ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุจุงู„ุฅู†ุฌู„ูŠุฒูŠุฉ:
(A former student of mine, a law student, came to me and said that the sister of her husband wanted to marry a Christian man, and her family were opposed to that, because a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a Christian man, but a Muslim man can marry a Christian woman. And that the young woman was determined to marry him and she was determined not to ask him to go through the theistic phase of converting to Islam in order to fulfill the requirement. Because what happens usually when a Muslim woman wants to marry a non-Muslim person, the person should declare Shahada and enter the Muslim faith, and proclaim they want to be a Muslim, and after that have their marriage. But actually, there are no related verses, and they do this simply as part of a requirement.
And, this early student somehow sort of think or remembered that I had expressed the opinion that, to us, that actually there is no basis or scripture related to this discrimination or restriction in Muslim Sharia. There are other aspects of Sharia where there are scriptures related to other forms marriage, but in this one there are none. Because the related verses do not speak in terms of cultural difference. I would say โ€˜you are not allowed to marry unbelievers, because they are pagans or no-believers, but as far as Christians are concerned, the unbelievers are not no-believers, they are believers!. So, in any case, ironically, I argued for that position, and wrote about it in an introduction to a book about Muslim family law in the contemporary world.
So, she bothered me to act or help. So, I gave a Fatwa. I went to the family and I said actually there is no scripture basis for this -or block- for this marriage and it is possible to have it, and I gave, I showed the scripture, and recited the Quran!. In any case it was a situation where I was able to intervene in a way that really made a difference. I think the family also was in crisis and that they needed a way out! They needed a way ofโ€ฆ. because the girl was determined to marry the man, and was determined not to force him to convert, just to fulfill the requirement. So any way, sort of we performed the marriage on a Muslim Nikah, and it was completely happy! I witnessed the ceremony, and hopefully they will live happily thereafter).

ู…ู† ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ ู„ู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุจุนู†ูˆุงู† (ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูˆู† ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุงู† ูˆุญู‚ูˆู‚ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุทู†ุฉ)..
ุฃุฏู†ุงู‡ ุฑุงุจุท ุณู…ุงุนุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ุดุงู‡ุฏุฉ ูˆุณู…ุงุนุŒ ุงู„ู…ุญุงุถุฑุฉ:

http://mellonsawyerseminar.ws.gc.cuny.edu/media/abdullahi-an...aim-and-andrew-march
ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุฉ ุจูŠู† ุฏ. ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ูˆุฌุงูŠุณูˆู† ูุงู† ุจูˆู…ุŒ ุณุฃู„ู‡ ุฌุงูŠุณูˆู†:
ุงู„ุณุคุงู„:
ุฃุฎุจุฑู†ุง ู‚ู„ูŠู„ุง ุนู† ูƒูŠู ุชุนุฑูุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุทู‡ ูˆู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุดุนูˆุฑูƒ ุญูŠุงู„ ุฐู„ูƒ: ู…ุงู‡ูŠ ุทุจูŠุนุฉ ุญุฑูƒุชู‡ุŒ ูˆุนู„ู‰ ู…ุงุฐุง ู‚ุงู…ุช ุฑุณุงู„ุชู‡!ุŸ
ู…ู† ุถู…ู† ุฅุฌุงุจุชู‡ ู‚ุงู„ ู…ุง ูŠู„ูŠ:
12- (ููƒุฑุชู‡ุŒ ุฃูˆ ู†ุธุฑูŠุชู‡ุŒ ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุคุณุณุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุฅู† ุงู„ุดุฑูŠุนุฉ ู‡ูŠ ูู‡ู… ุจุดุฑูŠ ู„ู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ุŒ ูˆุจูˆุตูู‡ุง ูู‡ู… ุจุดุฑูŠ ู„ู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชุชุทูˆุฑ ู…ุน ุชุทูˆุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฌุชู…ุนุงุช ุงู„ุจุดุฑูŠุฉ)..

(His theory, or his position, was to say that Sharia is a human understanding of Islam, and as a human interpretation of Islam, it has to evolve with human societies).

ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุฉ ู„ู„ู†ุนูŠู… ู…ุน ุฌุงูŠุณูˆู† ูุงู† ุจูˆู… ูˆุงู„ุจุฑูˆููŠุณูˆุฑ ูุฑูˆุบ ุฌุงู‡ู† ุจุฎุดุŒ ุถู…ู† ุณู„ุณู„ุฉ ู…ู‚ุงุจู„ุงุช ู…ูˆุถูˆุนุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ูˆู‚ุน ุงู„ู…ุฑูƒุฒ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠ ู„ุดู…ุงู„ ูƒุงู„ูŠููˆุฑู†ูŠุงุŒ ูˆู‡ูŠ ู…ู†ุดูˆุฑุฉ ูƒููŠุฏูŠูˆ ุนู„ู‰ ูŠูˆุชูŠูˆุจ ู…ู†ุฐ ุชุงุฑูŠุฎ 24/4/2011ุŒ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฑุงุจุท ุงู„ุชุงู„ูŠ:

Youtube.com/watch?v.=DXttj2azcQc

13- (ุงู„ููƒุฑุฉ ุงู„ุฌู…ู‡ูˆุฑูŠุฉ ุชู‡ุฏู ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุชุฒุงู… ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู… ู„ุฏู‰ ูƒู„ ู…ุณู„ู… ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู„ุฅู‚ุงู…ุฉ ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ุชุฒุนู… ุฃู†ู‡ุง ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠุฉุŒ ููŠ ู…ุบุงู„ุทุฉ ูˆุฎุฏุงุน ู„ู„ุดุนุจ)..ุงู„ุตุญุงูุฉ_ู…ุงูŠูˆ 2008ู…..

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Title: Re: ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ ุงู„ุซุงู„ุซุฉ ู…ู† ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู… ุงู„ู…ูุงุฑู‚ุฉ/ุงู„ุงุณุชุงุฐ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุงู„ุญุงุฌ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ู…ุญู…ูˆุฏ
Author: Abureesh
Date: 03-05-2014, 04:20 PM
Parent: #1

ู…ุง ู‚ุฏู…ู€ู‡ ุงู„ุงุฎ ุงู„ุฃุณุชุงุฐ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ู‡ู†ุง ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ุนู† ู†ู‚ู„ ูˆุชู†ุตูŠุต ู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ุฃุฎ ุงู„ุฏูƒุชูˆุฑ ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ู†ุนูŠู€ู….. ุจุฏูˆู† ุชุนู„ู‚ ุนู„ูŠู‡

ูู„ู… ูŠู‚ู„ ุฎุงู„ุฏ ุดูŠุฆุง ุญุชู‰ ู†ุนู„ู‚ ุนู„ูŠู‡