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 هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة
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نعم ولعلها تمظهرات ما بعد الحداثة ، فقدت لعبت الهوية دوراً أكبر مما توقعه لها الكثيرون ، أكثر مما لعبته المسألة الإقتصادية أو حرب العراق
لقد إنتصرت قوي القديم علي الجديد
إميركا البيضاء علي السوداء والملونة وجداد المهاجرين
إميركا الإصولية علي الليبرالية
إميركا الأثرياء علي الفقراْء
إميركاالريف المحافظ علي المدن العريضة والقيتوات
إميركا القيم الدينية علي حقوق المرأة والشواذ وحرية البحث العلمي
أو هكذا أظن
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Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: تاج السر حسن)
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Dear Sinnary.
Thank for your post and I would like to show you this message
which I have just recieved it by my email
from Cary's Office
Subj: A sincere thank you
Date: 11/3/2004 6:58:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: [email protected] (John Kerry)
Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected] (Adil Nagiela)
Dear Adil,
Earlier today I spoke to President Bush, and offered him and Laura our congratulations on their victory. We had a good conversation, and we talked about the danger of division in our country and the need, the desperate need, for unity for finding the common ground, coming together. Today, I hope that we can begin the healing.
In America, it is vital that every vote counts, and that every vote be counted. But the outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process. I would not give up this fight if there was a chance that we would prevail. But it is now clear that even when all the provisional ballots are counted, which they will be, there won't be enough outstanding votes for our campaign to be able to win Ohio. And therefore, we cannot win this election.
It was a privilege and a gift to spend two years traveling this country, coming to know so many of you. I wish I could just wrap you in my arms and embrace each and every one of you individually all across this nation. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
To all of you, my volunteers and online supporters, all across this country who gave so much of themselves, thank you. Thanks to William Field, a six-year-old who collected $680, a quarter and a dollar at a time selling bracelets during the summer to help change America. Thanks to Michael Benson from Florida who I spied in a rope line holding a container of money. It turned out he raided his piggy bank and wanted to contribute. And thanks to Alana Wexler, who at 11 years old started Kids for Kerry.
I thank all of you, who took time to travel, time off from work, and their own vacation time to work in states far and wide. You braved the hot days of summer and the cold days of the fall and the winter to knock on doors because you were determined to open the doors of opportunity to all Americans. You worked your hearts out, and I say, don't lose faith. What you did made a difference, and building on itself, we will go on to make a difference another day. I promise you, that time will come -- the election will come when your work and your ballots will change the world, and it's worth fighting for.
I'm proud of what we stood for in this campaign, and of what we accomplished. When we began, no one thought it was possible to even make this a close race, but we stood for real change, change that would make a real difference in the life of our nation, the lives of our families, and we defined that choice to America. I'll never forget the wonderful people who came to our rallies, who stood in our rope lines, who put their hopes in our hands, who invested in each and every one of us. I saw in them the truth that America is not only great, but it is good.
So here -- with a grateful heart, I leave this campaign with a prayer that has even greater meaning to me now that I've come to know our vast country so much better and that prayer is very simple: God bless America.
Sincerely,
John Kerry
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 Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: malamih)
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قصدت بتحميل هذه الرسالة والتي وصلت لكل المتطوعين من الحزب الديموقراطي في ولاية أريزونا ـ ولقد كنت منهم ـ
قصدت أبراز أصول العمل السياسي وتعاطيه من أحترام للخصم والتحلي بالروح الوطنية ومشاورة الأعضاء في كل صغيرة وكبيرة وأحترام رأيهم .. حقيقة النتيجة كانت بصورتها الحالية والأخيرة كانت مفاجأة ..لنا..لأن الفرق بين المرشحين كان كبيرا في التقييم ..يوجد عامل هام أنت لمسته أخي سناري وممرت به سريعآ ..كان ذلك العامل هو دعم الكنائس لحملة بوش وخاصة في صلاة الأحد قبيل الأنتخابات وتوجيه المصلين بدعم حملة بوش ..ولعلها المرة الأولى ومنذ عام 1945 منذ أعادة أنتخاب رزوفلت أن تصوت أمريكا دينيا ..لا عن قناعة بأفضلية البرامج ولا المرشح .. وأتنبأ للعالم بفترة قاسية بعد تحالف الجمهوري المحافظ وسلطة الاحتكارات بكل فضائحها وآخرها فضيحة عطاءات العراق ..مع التيارات ادينية والمسبحية الجديدة المتحالفة مع الصهيونية ..وأأمل أن لا يكمل
جي. دبليو. بوش فترت الاربعة سنوات القادمة.
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Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: malamih)
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Dear/ Adil
thanks for your reply. I heard the speech that Kerry gave for conceding. Many Americans felt that he would win this election. I have had an opportunity to talk to a few people and many feel that some how this election also was rigged, and that there may have been some unfairness in the voting process. nevertheless, America has its President re-elect George W. Bush, and this will be an interesting four years to observe. Many people will suffer that are in a lower economic status in this country. I feel Kerry was very gracious and sincere in delivering his concession speech, as I read the post reply you sent, I can since his compassion and strong desire to have helped this country, unfortunately, fear has played a factor in this election, and many people have a false sense of security from Bush.
Dear/ Tag alsir
I really appreciates your inquiry as to my wellbeing...you write because its the occupying glutony superpower ...wish we immunize our lands against with the nreal democracy and unity.
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Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: Sinnary)
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الاخ سناري
سلا م الله عليك ورمضان كريم ، نفتقدك بشدة يا عزيزي وقد لاحظت غيبتك بشدة حتى وجدت تخريمة منك ناحيتي في بوست علاج أخونا زهير وقد شجعني ذلك على كتابة أيميل لك ، ولكنك تدري حجم المشغوليات وحجم الغياب عن هذا البورد ، سيصلك عما قريب مكتوبي اليك.
بالنسبة لموضوع أمريكا فقد فازت امريكا الحالية لانها تعرف ماذا تريد وتعمل له ، بينما لم نعرف نحن حتى الان ماذا نريد وماذا نفعل لذلك. ولم نتخطى نحن حالة كوننا شعوباً لا تستطيع التفكير خارج قوالب
المعتاد.
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Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: Sidig Rahama Elnour)
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Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by TomPaine.com
Kerry Won
by Greg Palast
Kerry won. Here's the facts.
I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad. But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.
Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.
So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.
Here's why. Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. [See TomPaine.com, "An Election Spoiled Rotten," November 1.]
Once again, at the heart of the Ohio uncounted vote game are, I'm sorry to report, hanging chads and pregnant chads, plus some other ballot tricks old and new.
The election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called "spoilage." Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of the vote is voided, just thrown away, not recorded. When the bobble-head boobs on the tube tell you Ohio or any state was won by 51 percent to 49 percent, don't you believe it ... it has never happened in the United States, because the total never reaches a neat 100 percent. The television totals simply subtract out the spoiled vote.
And not all vote spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African American and minority precincts. (To learn more, click here.)
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2004/elect04.pdf
We saw this in Florida in 2000. Exit polls showed Gore with a plurality of at least 50,000, but it didn't match the official count. That's because the official, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, excluded 179,855 spoiled votes. In Florida, as in Ohio, most of these votes lost were cast on punch cards where the hole wasn't punched through completely—leaving a 'hanging chad,'—or was punched extra times. Whose cards were discarded? Expert statisticians investigating spoilage for the government calculated that 54 percent of the ballots thrown in the dumpster were cast by black folks. (To read the report from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, click here .)
And here's the key: Florida is terribly typical. The majority of ballots thrown out (there will be nearly 2 million tossed out from Tuesday's election) will have been cast by African American and other minority citizens.
So here we go again. Or, here we don't go again. Because unlike last time, Democrats aren't even asking Ohio to count these cards with the not-quite-punched holes (called "undervotes" in the voting biz).
Ohio is one of the last states in America to still use the vote-spoiling punch-card machines. And the Secretary of State of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, wrote before the election, “the possibility of a close election with punch cards as the state’s primary voting device invites a Florida-like calamity.”
But this week, Blackwell, a rabidly partisan Republican, has warmed up to the result of sticking with machines that have a habit of eating Democratic votes. When asked if he feared being this year's Katherine Harris, Blackwell noted that Ms. Fix-it's efforts landed her a seat in Congress.
Exactly how many votes were lost to spoilage this time? Blackwell's office, notably, won't say, though the law requires it be reported. Hmm. But we know that last time, the total of Ohio votes discarded reached a democracy-damaging 1.96 percent. The machines produced their typical loss—that's 110,000 votes—overwhelmingly Democratic.
The Impact Of Challenges
First and foremost, Kerry was had by chads. But the Democrat wasn't punched out by punch cards alone. There were also the 'challenges.' That's a polite word for the Republican Party of Ohio's use of an old Ku Klux Klan technique: the attempt to block thousands of voters of color at the polls. In Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida, the GOP laid plans for poll workers to ambush citizens under arcane laws—almost never used—allowing party-designated poll watchers to finger individual voters and demand they be denied a ballot. The Ohio courts were horrified and federal law prohibits targeting of voters where race is a factor in the challenge. But our Supreme Court was prepared to let Republicans stand in the voting booth door.
In the end, the challenges were not overwhelming, but they were there. Many apparently resulted in voters getting these funky "provisional" ballots—a kind of voting placebo—which may or may not be counted. Blackwell estimates there were 175,000; Democrats say 250,000. Pick your number. But as challenges were aimed at minorities, no one doubts these are, again, overwhelmingly Democratic. Count them up, add in the spoiled punch cards (easy to tally with the human eye in a recount), and the totals begin to match the exit polls; and, golly, you've got yourself a new president. Remember, Bush won by 136,483 votes in Ohio.
Enchanted State's Enchanted Vote
Now, on to New Mexico, where a Kerry plurality—if all votes are counted—is more obvious still. Before the election, in TomPaine.com, I wrote, "John Kerry is down by several thousand votes in New Mexico, though not one ballot has yet been counted."
How did that happen? It's the spoilage, stupid; and the provisional ballots.
CNN said George Bush took New Mexico by 11,620 votes. Again, the network total added up to that miraculous, and non-existent, '100 percent' of ballots cast.
New Mexico reported in the last race a spoilage rate of 2.68 percent, votes lost almost entirely in Hispanic, Native American and poor precincts—Democratic turf. From Tuesday's vote, assuming the same ballot-loss rate, we can expect to see 18,000 ballots in the spoilage bin.
Spoilage has a very Democratic look in New Mexico. Hispanic voters in the Enchanted State, who voted more than two to one for Kerry, are five times as likely to have their vote spoil as a white voter. Counting these uncounted votes would easily overtake the Bush 'plurality.'
Already, the election-bending effects of spoilage are popping up in the election stats, exactly where we'd expect them: in heavily Hispanic areas controlled by Republican elections officials. Chaves County, in the "Little Texas" area of New Mexico, has a 44 percent Hispanic population, plus African Americans and Native Americans, yet George Bush "won" there 68 percent to 31 percent.
I spoke with Chaves' Republican county clerk before the election, and he told me that this huge spoilage rate among Hispanics simply indicated that such people simply can't make up their minds on the choice of candidate for president. Oddly, these brown people drive across the desert to register their indecision in a voting booth.
Now, let's add in the effect on the New Mexico tally of provisional ballots.
"They were handing them out like candy," Albuquerque journalist Renee Blake reported of provisional ballots. About 20,000 were given out. Who got them?
Santiago Juarez who ran the "Faithful Citizenship" program for the Catholic Archdiocese in New Mexico, told me that "his" voters, poor Hispanics, whom he identified as solid Kerry supporters, were handed the iffy provisional ballots. Hispanics were given provisional ballots, rather than the countable kind "almost religiously," he said, at polling stations when there was the least question about a voter's identification. Some voters, Santiago said, were simply turned away.
Your Kerry Victory Party
So we can call Ohio and New Mexico for John Kerry—if we count all the votes.
But that won't happen. Despite the Democratic Party's pledge, the leadership this time gave in to racial disenfranchisement once again. Why? No doubt, the Democrats know darn well that counting all the spoiled and provisional ballots will require the cooperation of Ohio's Secretary of State, Blackwell. He will ultimately decide which spoiled and provisional ballots get tallied. Blackwell, hankering to step into Kate Harris' political pumps, is unlikely to permit anything close to a full count. Also, Democratic leadership knows darn well the media would punish the party for demanding a full count.
What now? Kerry won, so hold your victory party. But make sure the shades are down: it may be become illegal to demand a full vote count under PATRIOT Act III.
I used to write a column for the Guardian papers in London. Several friends have asked me if I will again leave the country. In light of the failure—a second time—to count all the votes, that won't be necessary. My country has left me.
Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight. The documentary, "Bush Family Fortunes," based on his New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, has been released this month on DVD .
© 2004 TomPaine.com
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Re: هل فازت إميريكا القديمة علي إميركا الجديدة (Re: Tumadir)
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شكرأ صديقي صديق وبالفعل الاربعة سنوات القادمة تحمل الكثير المثير ، ربك يستر بس شكلها حتولع وليعة ذات شنبات جوّة وبرة ، وربنا يستر سيدي من حركات المغامرين الطائشين
فنانتنا الأبهة طماطم
الكثيرون يحسون بأن هنالك شيئا ما حدث تحت ، تحت (أنتوا قايلين شراء الذمم دا مقتصر علي دول العالم التالت طاشر فقط ...يقال أن زعماء في أقلية معينة تنطق الأسبانية ريّشوا تمام في المولد دا).....لكن برضو الواحد ما حينسي إنّوا درجة الشفافية المازالت متوفرة في البلاد دي ....نحن وراها فراسخ
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Sinnary
Sidig Rahama Elnour
Tumadir
فيس بوك
تويتر
انستقرام
يوتيوب
بنتيريست