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07-19-2011, 05:00 PM
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Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan:

    By Professor Abdullah Awoodhah Hamour

    First of all I thought of choosing the title “Who listens? And who reads?” for this article. The title is taken from a Sudanese mythology which goes as follows:
    Once upon a time, a fox saw a cock on a tree and said to him “the Sultan has decreed that hostilities between chicken and the fox, cat and mouse, and hyena and sheep must cease immediately” so why don’t you come down so that we can chill?
    Instantly, a dog appeared and the fox fled the scene. The cock shouted “why don’t you read him the Sultan’s decree?” and the fox replied “now who listens and who reads”.
    That was the basis for the Sudanese saying used when reality supersedes facts, laws, and good deeds.
    Originally, I thought of titling this article “The Meedops of Northern Darfur speak German, or the English speak Dungulawi language, or the Algerians speak Halfawi language” then I opted for the title “Linguistic Archaeologies”. I thought this title is more appropriate.
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:01 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    I read in the Sudanese daily newspaper, Al Sahafa, in Khartoum, issue dated May 9th 2011 a column titled “Bilmantiq al ratib” written by Salah Awoodhah Awees. The same column also appeared in the paper “Ajraas Al Hurriyah”
    The column contained the following:
    “They are certainly Germans …!” showing dots and exclamation marks about the article. The author is Dr. Ahmed El Sharief (a medical doctor in Khartoum). Here is the content of the article:
    “Mr. Wilson, a German scientist who specializes in anthropology and ancient German Languages, travelled to Sudan and lived with the Meedop tribe of Western Sudan. He stayed there for many months speaking to the tribe but without understanding what he is saying. The irony was that he understood what they said for they speak an old German Language.
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:02 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    To the above story, I would like to add what Dr. Hassan Awadh Satti (a Dungulawi Medical doctor from Labab Isalnd where Imam Mahdi came from) wrote an article titled “Commonality between English and Dungulawi languages”, published in Al Rai Al Aam newspaper dated around 2001. The English language meant here is old Shakespearean language (1616) and not contemporary English of today.
    He wrote about many words used in common between the two languages such as “assie” meaning water , and jumbo (like in jumbo plane) meaning big axe, just to name a few.
    Before Dr. Wilson and Dr. Hassan, I wrote many articles under the title “linguistic archaeologies”, where I explained that people of Algeria speak the languages of Sokkot and Halfawiyah of Northern Sudan, not the languages of Mahas and Danaglah, which are completely different from Sokkot language. For example the Sokkot say “amang” for water, while Danaglah say “assie”.
    This observation was made by Algerian soldiers who took part in the Swis 1967 war between the Arabs and Israel, something which was confirmed to me by a Halfawi who used to work at the Sudanese Embassy in Algiers in 1984. He stated that he understood most of what is being said by the Berber of Algeria in streets and in markets.
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:03 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    In addition to this, a Malian fellow residing in Paris listened to a song by Wardi (in his native language of Sokkot) stated that he understood every word of the song. The Sudanese fellow who didn’t speak Halfawieen Language asked the Malian fellow to write what he understood from the song in French, which he did. Upon showing the translation to his Halfawieen friends, they confirmed that the translation is 100% correct. They were very surprised as to how come Malians understood Halfawi.
    The important written contribution I had on this subject, which I extracted from others’ source, were the many articles I wrote in Al Raid newspaper under its ex-editor Mr. Yasser Mahjoob El Hussein.
    I explained that the origins and ancestors of Dinka, Shuluk, and Nuwair are Arabs. (I’m saying this in isolation from politics). The proof is that they use the “DH” alphabet, which is exclusively used in Arabic language and none other language.
    They also use sentence structures the same way they are used in Arabic language. Members of the three tribes have mentioned to me many examples but my memory fails me at this time. I encourage my readers residing here in America or in Europe to confirm these facts from members of these tribes if it happens that they know anyone.
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:04 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    The same Arabic sentence structures apply to English as well as Halfawieen language. This is clear in sentences such as “white House”, “foot ball”, and “your house”, but most importantly, the ultimate prove is that the language used by the total of fifty five tribes of Southern Sudan is “Arabi Juba”.
    In this regard, the relationship between the languages of three tribes of the South to Arabic is similar to the one that exists between French, Italian, and Portuguese languages, all of which are branches of the Latin Language, even though the relationship with the Latin language no more exists. This is unlike the case in the fifty five tribes of the South which still maintains relationship with Arabic language.
    We can conclude that linguistic archeology and historic human archeology are absolute prove of the existence of social networks but the difference is that linguistic archeology is intangible compared to historic human archeology, which is tangible.
    It would be extremely useful to conduct studies to identify the nature of historic relationships which enabled the Meedop of Sudan to speak old German language, the Algerians and the Malians to speak Halfawieen language, and the English to speak the Dungulawi language. Is this because that Germans are descendents of the Meedop? Or the Dinka, the Shuluk, and the Nuwair are descendents of the Arabs? Or the similarities in the way they structure their sentences?
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:05 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    This could be remotely possible but there is a need for a scientific research to confirm or deny these assumptions.
    This is why I wrote all this, but who reads and who listens in the Third World?
    I find my comfort in the ancient Arabic saying “the local musician hardly entertains”, as well as what Ahmed Faris El Shidaiyaq wrote about Egypt saying “It is where a donkey can play a lion’s role as long as its brought from far away”, otherwise how can we justify what the German Scientist said about the Meedop in spite of the physical distance between the two groups, while Juba is a stone throw from Khartoum. The only reason is the obsession of the Sudanese people with politics at the expense of what is good for human welfare.
                  

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07-19-2011, 05:20 PM
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Re: Away from politics - Linguistic Archeology from Sudan: (Re: عزيز عيسى)

    Professor Abdullah Awoodhah Hamour came to Texas on a short visit to his daughter Dr. Iqbal Hamour who works as an academic researcher for Texas A & M University at College Station. I met with him here in Houston two weeks ago and requested me to post this article in Sudaneseonline.
    Dr. Hamour will answer to your comments on the article.
                  

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